Do you like to listen to opera?
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:14:05 GMT
No. 25766729
Not by itself. Mixed with metal it becomes good.
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:25:32 GMT
No. 25766826
Yes, I listen mostly to opera, in fact.
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:28:46 GMT
No. 25766847
>>25766876
>>25766891
I almost exclusively listen to philharmonic concerts, but the opera piece i really like is mephistopheles' solo in faust act 2. it's amazingly good
I know the lyrics by heart
it really pumps a lot of dopamine for me
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:29:54 GMT
No. 25766856
>>25766891
>>25766897
Why is Aida set in Egypt?
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:30:02 GMT
No. 25766859
actually learning german to a good enough level to read faust in the original is my main motivator too
I also like this version better but apparently technically its on a lower level
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:30:53 GMT
No. 25766866
SÄGE!
fugg i sent the same thing twice
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:32:04 GMT
No. 25766876
>>25766887
>>25766847
Which composer is it from?
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:32:46 GMT
No. 25766884
I used to but haven't in a while, I feel like I need an hour or something to sit quiet and just listen to it but I'm always on a rush these days
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:33:24 GMT
No. 25766891
>>25766847
Looks like a decent production. Thank you.
>>25766856
It was commissioned by the Egyptians.
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:34:03 GMT
No. 25766897
>>25766856
Because there were no pharaohs in the Ukraine.
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:34:17 GMT
No. 25766900
>>25766724
Love me some good German humor.
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:35:14 GMT
No. 25766909
>>25766925
>>25766950
>>25766887
Can Frenchies into Faustian opera?
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:37:26 GMT
No. 25766923
My favorite opera director is Ponnelle. He often borders on kitsch, but doesn't quite get there, and is humorous about it.
After Ponnelle, Franco Zeffirelli.
I abhor regietheater. I just can't stand it. Modern directors have an IQ of 110 and think their little "insights" are very profound. They're not. Opera directing is about creating beautiful and faithful interpretations of what's in the text, otherwise it has no reason to exist and it's better to just listen to a CD.
I don't think any phenomenon encapsulates midwittery so clearly as regietheater.
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:37:36 GMT
No. 25766925
>>25766984
>>25767035
>>25766909
They probably could but not anymore. The most viewed adaptation of the piece I posted on youtube is from Opera de paris and it was literally a basketball adaptation of faust
also I dont know this christian van horn but his french seems to be very nonfrench, he trills the r a lot which annoys me
but yeah, critics prefer this version
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:40:05 GMT
No. 25766950
>>25766982
>>25766909
They can also into Spanish opera (Carmen).
Fun fact: Beethoven intended his last and definitive work to be an adaptation of Faust.
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:43:58 GMT
No. 25766982
>>25767035
>>25766950
Do you have a source for that Beethoven claim? Sounds interesting, I’d like to read more about it.
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:44:18 GMT
No. 25766984
>>25767034
>>25766925
Have you listened to Wagner‘s Faust Ouvertüre?
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:49:41 GMT
No. 25767034
>>25769668
>>25766984
yes, and I like wagner a lot, I just didn't mention him because you asked about opera
but from his ouvertures the one i like the most is lohengrin, mostly because i really like the sound of horns and other winds
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:49:42 GMT
No. 25767035
>>25769668
>>25766925
How can someone stand that production? It just annoys me intensely as it's in disaccord with the aesthetics of the music.
>>25766982
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/3528/3528-h/3528-h.htm
>Not even a Beethoven was spared the tormenting question of texts for composition. It is fortunate for posterity that he did not exhaust his energies in setting inefficient libretti, that he did not believe that good music would suffice to command success in spite of bad texts. The majority of his works belong to the field of purely instrumental music. Beethoven often gave expression to the belief that words were a less capable medium of proclamation for feelings than music. Nevertheless it may be observed that he looked upon an opera, or lyric drama, as the crowning work of his life. He was in communication with the best poets of his time concerning opera texts. A letter of his on the subject was found in the blood-spotted pocketbook of Theodor Komer. The conclusion of his creative labors was to be a setting of Goethe’s “Faust;” except “Fidelio,” however, he gave us no opera. His songs are not many although he sought carefully for appropriate texts. Unhappily the gift of poetry was not vouchsafed him.
>94. “I do not write what I most desire to, but that which I need to because of money. But this is not saying that I write only for money. When the present period is past, I hope at last to write that which is the highest thing for me as well as art,—‘Faust.’”
>95. “Ha! ‘Faust;’ that would be a piece of work! Something might come out of that! But for some time I have been big with three other large works. Much is already sketched out, that is, in my head. I must be rid of them first:—two large symphonies differing from each other, and each differing from all the others, and an oratorio. And this will take a long time, you see, for a considerable time I have had trouble to get myself to write. I sit and think, and think I’ve long had the thing, but it will not on the paper. I dread the beginning of these large works. Once into the work, and it goes.”
Bernd
Wed, 02 Apr 2025 19:55:59 GMT
No. 25767081
also I like
>hr-Sinfonieorchester – Frankfurt Radio Symphony
for uploading the best quality content availabel on jewtube
honestly its hard to get flac recording thats as good as that.
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 00:22:11 GMT
No. 25768505
>>25768512
>>25768518
no. i listen to progressive psytrance, melodic dubstep, phonk, withchouse, acoustic country, bluesrock and flamenco
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 00:24:04 GMT
No. 25768512
>>25768518
>>25768505
oh and prog metal, stoner, doom, sludge, and desert rock
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 00:25:20 GMT
No. 25768515
>>25768518
>>25768523
and do i even need to say it?
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 00:27:16 GMT
No. 25768523
>>25768515
everyone has to follow their bliss, big guy..
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 00:36:41 GMT
No. 25768541
>>25768593
Only the most popular arias and duets, you mad?
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 00:54:53 GMT
No. 25768593
>>25769665
>>25768541
They last too long for contemporary attention spans, but if you watch them with subtitles it becomes easier and then you get used to it. There are many available on YouTube and specially on RuTracker.
Beware of modern productions, as they often change the settings (e.g. Don Giovanni but in 1970's New York, Wagner but with Nazi uniforms and such) in order to make political "points". It's a disease. More traditional directors like Zeffirelli, Ponnelle and Otto Schenk can be trusted.
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 04:15:57 GMT
No. 25769085
Yes i do i like classical music more i don't listen to normie stuff only real music
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 04:23:56 GMT
No. 25769108
Only occasionally and in small doses.
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 05:00:50 GMT
No. 25769220
nowadays is for women and fags, 200 years ago it was the banger !
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 08:15:24 GMT
No. 25769665
>>25768593
Why not just listen to it instead of watching it
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 08:16:10 GMT
No. 25769668
>>25767034
The Lohengrin Ouvertüre really is the pinnacle of music. Thomas Mann loved it as well.
>>25767035
t.hanks
Bernd
Thu, 03 Apr 2025 14:40:53 GMT
No. 25771251
I went twice. One time there were subs so I got the ridiculous story. The other one there were no subs and no papers with libretto available so I had to guess from the words I can recognize and what's happening on the stage.