I have 1.5 months off and I rarely use it all but tbh It's the working time that would kill me some mutts do over 60 hours a week add commute time to that and you're only sleeping and eating at your place. meanwhile I'm enjoying my life by browsing KC

do americans get double pay for working on holidays? do they get compensation for work done after 18:00? do they get double pay for overtime?

I have off until june, because we just finished our project and the next is in june. Its heaven on earth having so much free time.

>>25747506 Depends on industry and state. In some states there is no laws for overtime, so you just work your overtime normally depending on company.

Why do you think we have such a terrible mental health crisis, and why do you think the vast majority of our citizens are drug addicts, alcoholics and escapists? It's because we, as citizen-slaves, are bred to be fuel stock for the great hellfires of the Moloch of industrial capital.

In germany most germans don't even work full day on fridays. They just do a half day.

I am currently working on a Sunday, with 2 other coworkers.

my dad did 90+hours for most of my life and wouldn't take vacation now my moms being a cunt and he's staying with me too much fuck I'm going to get lectured for not doing anything again

>>25747881 >my dad did 90+hours for most of my life how's is it even possible? only maybe if he's a rancher or something

US work ethic is retarded. People break their backs so their turbo capitalist bosses can retire in their 40s and play good all day. Or they crunch insane hours only to deliver a bad job. Ther's a reason why US has a trade deficit despite being so "hard working".

anyone here old enough to remember when germans used to be considered hard working

If you are making >$40/h, that is not bad.

>>25747891 I don't know, he worked even longer at times, like 110 hours day after day. I worked with him some and after 10 hours I would just go fold up and sleep somewhere. I started to make fun of ranchers, but they're not all that bad. The more animals, the more work. But farmers without livestock are hilariously lazy outside of a few weeks a year. It is mind-numbingly boring to work for them because mostly they aren't doing anything and they just go through the motions. Damnit, I'm getting paged right now to bring home boxes because he is cleaning my kitchen. Boomers, mane.

>>25747520 you have all that thanks to your greatest ally tho

I personally work to live, not live to work even though I really enjoy my job. I like to take as much time off as I can, but I have pretty much worked straight for the past 2 years due to circumstances.

>>25747973 The people work hard to become the bosses. If you're not a management boss retiring in your 40s and playing golf all day then you weren't really breaking your back.

>I'm so poor compared to lazy Americans, why is this?? Is not fair! <Those stupid Americans work too much. Why would they do this stupid thing? Europoors are cognitively impaired.

>>25748230 nice try

>>25748265 do you even have sick leave?

>>25748279 Yes, of course. How often are you sick I might ask? Serious question.. how many days are you sick per year?

>>25748230 But not everyone can be the boss, though. And besides, all you get for breaking your back to advance up the ladder is a broken back, and awful knees, and carpal tunnel in both hands, and a permanent migraine headache, and a hateful ex-wife who takes half your wages in alimony and child support every month, and a permanently stretched anus from being fucked in the ass by life, and so on and so forth.

>>25748295 Maybe like 3 weeks in total per year. Im a neet though so i dont give a fuck

>>25748279 no, only on paper, but I'm also a neet now

>>25748279 Many companies these days just call paid sick days "personal days". That way you can take a day off without having to lie about being sick. You get so many personal days per year.

>>25748312 Really? Why are you so sick all the time? I got sick in 2020 with a cold that wasn't bad enough to miss work for. SInce then I've had a couple of individual days where I felt bad and laid in bed, but no more than that. What's wrong with you Germs?

>>25748336 Our company separates sick days and personal days. We get sick leave, personal leave(PTO) and vacation leave.

>>25748338 Im a two times uncle and kids are always sick and sneeze right in your eyes without any warning

>>25748342 Ah, you have biological weapons running around. Still, usually you just get colds from them and not much worse right?

>>25748394 yea cold like stuff or maybe flu. maybe its just 2 weeks per year im only guessing. kids do have some nasty stuff though they are always around other infected bio weapons its a never ending battle.

>>25748407 All the parents of young children always have the sniffles at work. I guess we just power through that shit here. I think more parents take time off due to their kids being sick then themselves. For that it would be useful to have more time off for sure

>>25748424 I dont like people that go to work being sick. You will infect other people and they will hate you for it.

I'm working for the same way, becuse Im a contractor. I take 2 weeks for vacations and 2 for chrismas break, and sometimes I take like 5 days more. Work all the time which is especially exhausting because I have mental burnout

>>25748429 Its true for the flu, but I think anything less just has to be tolerated. Build up that immune system! Twinkies and börger keeps us fit and healthy here.

>>25748429 I never met anyone for anything who said 'do NOT come here sick' until 2018 or so. It was mindblowing honestly.

I get a buncha holidays off work paid and 2 weeks for christmas/new years off paid. Other than that if I wanna take a few days off I just let my bosses know when I wont be in and it'll just be unpaid. Usually lose a couple weeks a year to injury or sickness too. Its whatevers. I like my job. Money is decent. Keeps me fit. Gotta buncha kids and a wife to spoil too. Gotta get that cash yo

>>25747517 There's a federal overtime law

In America kids are taught that getting a stable job makes you above others. Somehow be at service makes you a member of 'upper-class'. But it's not the only option though. Being an entrepreneur is ever more respected. It's just to run a business no matter how small you still have to work a lot. Like more than your actual employees.

>>25748699 people are taught that success means the trappings of success

>>25748699 None of that is true.

They always say they work nine to five but is it actually 9-5 or it's plus lunch hour, coming 30 minutes early, some other shit?

>>25748823 Depends, all of those happen separately, at the same time, or not at all depending on location, industry, company, and position.

>>25748823 My hours are technically 7 to 3:30 but we usually finish our projects early. Typically come in late by a few minutes. And typically skip lunch breaks.

>>25748823 A standard 9-5 includes a lunch break but it's 30 minutes not an hour. You can of course take longer, but the unwritten rule is that you're expected to work longer to offset this. A standard working week is 37.5 hours of actual work with 2.5 hours of paid lunch breaks.

>>25748952 >>25748963 Tell me the most common thing. Here the norm is to spend 9 hours at work, 1 of which is accounted as lunch and not paid for. You can do no work at that hour but you can't say "I skipped it" and leave an hour early.

>>25748823 I don't understand the saying at all, it's 8 to 5 as the standard in every part of the cunt I've seen

>>25748823 Almost everyone comes in a few minutes early due to having to plan for traffic. If you're a salaryman, you work 9-5 with your lunch break included. If you're hourly, you usually work 9-5:30 or 9-6 with an unpaid, 30 minute or 1 hour lunch break. I used to make all kinds of fun schedules though when I did workforce management. I designed a schedule for 3 days, 12 hours a day (I gave them the 4 extra hours for free for accepting such a schedule) on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. The reason is we needed coverage in a NOC 24/7 but only light coverage. So I just had two working that schedule from 7am - 7pm and 7pm-7am I made all kinds of crazy schedules so I could fill gaps in schedules and because workers sometimes like weird stuff because they have lives that require different times to be available.

>>25748982 Depends on where you work. I dont know office work but everywhere scheduling is all over the place in trades and service industry. I get paid lunch breaks if I bother to take one.

I hate a lot about porknr, but what I like the most is that if you work in some state owned/affiliated company you get an average income doing literally nothing and having 28 days a year for vacations and other social gibs. As a lazy low skilled ass, I like that. Well, Scandinavia maybe could be even better place because coders pay 50% of their income for me to be equal and you don't need useful connections to find the right job. But there are too many such a cases to live there.

>>25747482 i couldnt give a shit about americans they should work even longer hours with less holiday fuck them

>>25749009 paradise

>>25748992 damn, that's nice, I was working for a guy where it could only be part time and I couldn't convince him to just work a few longer days together like that. frustrating as fuck

I wouldn't even know what day of the week it is without friday threads

>>25748978 >>25748992 >>25748986 >>25748995 Thank you guys! >8 to 5 I heard about americans starting their days very early and that many people are already in beds by 10-11pm. Here most workers usually start at 9 or 10. Soviet legacy factories can start at 6-7 and be free when common people are lunching. I understand that it's different with workers in shifts or hired per hour.

>>25749024 I was given complete control so I could do whatever I wanted as long as it was within the rules. We managed a 40% GP in that NOC because we were willing to do innovative stuff to assure coverage and meet SLA's. I learned a lot from there about what employees are willing to do, what they won't do, and the flexibility that you can offer if you're both willing to meet halfway. It was a cool learning experience. Most companies aren't that flexible when it comes to schedules though.

>>25749022 But I still hate to work 9-6 yeah, we have an hour break for lunch and the employer doesn't pay you for that, despite I have a hybrid remote/office schedule. I still must be in touch until the working hours are gone, and it exhausts me.

Something crazy is that many Americans have a not fixed schedule, so your boss change your shift whetever he wants in odds hours so it fuck your life if you have other jobs.

>>25749032 I used to wake up 4:30am just to have a few hours to chill before work and then just go to bed at 8pm. Still usually go to bed around 8:30-9pm and wake up at 6am. Dont care for late nights.

>>25749047 Yes every american works three randomly shifting jobs

>>25749047 Usually that only happens in the service industries at low level like retail or restaurant. I used to have bids for shits once every half-year. The people who had the best performance rating during that time got to pick the best shifts. I would rank-order all employees by their performance metrics and then they would choose accordingly. There was inevitably someone though who got a graveyard shift and really hated it. I would simply say "its not my fault, your performance dicates your shift".

>>25749058 Extremely rare here. Typically people wake up as late as possible and go straight to work (except maybe for moms taking kids to kindergartens), then in the evening they stay up doing what they enjoy. Maybe it's tied to you having much more hours of sunlight. Here rural people working in agriculture in summer also get up early and go to bed early.

>>25749065 Yeah, but you can harass and fire an employee that refuse to cover someone else shift . There is no work protection.

>>25749106 Most of this is just harrassment and not firing. I never fired anyone for refusing to come in for overtime with the exception of paid training which had to happen when we had trainers present. Even then though we would always notify them a couple of weeks ahead of time. Most of what you hear is bullshit from tv and movie skits about being fired for such things. Of course, the employers here can fire for any reason, but you'd end up with a mutiny on your hands if you behaved like that as an employer. It only happens in extreme cases and even then doesn't last very long.

>>25749090 I dont like getting to work before I am "awake" and have taken a shit or two. Takes me an hour or so to be properly back in reality to deal with customers and coworkers.

>>25749137 >I dont like getting to work before I am "awake" and have taken a shit or two Nobody does. Even the getting to work part alone is already bad enough. Yet here we are. Consider shitting on company time though.

I live in one of the most poor places in Brazil and i work only 4 hours a day during 6 months a year. If you come here you would really think this is someplace in Africa. But i gain enough money to live a easy life. Funny how things are.

>>25749135 Are you against trade unions?

>>25749237 Can't suffer on the Braziu.

>>25749258 I think they have both negatives and positives, and often times the negatives outweigh the positives. I'm not against banning them, but I'm not pro-union at all.

>2 weeks of holiday a year I doubt this. I get 7 fixed holidays (and 3 floating), and 20 vacation days, so that would be effectively 6 work weeks. t.office worker

Just take the day off and enjoy watching some niggerball on the tv

>3-4 months off on average every year What in the fuck I only have 25 days.

>>25749044 >hour break for lunch and the employer doesn't pay you for that Same bullshit here. I try to steal company time. Ultimately it's not worked time that counts though but results. On which I'm always behind.

>>25749505 We have 30, so he's probably taking unpaid time off.

>>25747482 worked under several american companies. i honestly felt like a fucking slave. we only had 12vls and 12 sls all throughout the year. plus the fucking dancing, why the fuck do mutts love these humiliation rituals? when i worked under brits and australian companies i actually felt like a human being. i was not forced to call anyone as a sir / mam and the hierarchy felt much looser. i promised myself i won't degrade myself and work under an american company again.

>>25750958 >plus the fucking dancing What?

>>25750967 >he doesn't know

>>25750967 Okay lets get me a rhythm!

>>25750958 oh yeah, we had a 20 day vls plus the local holidays were followed. if you have to be on call you would be paid double or you can offset it. we're also not forced to dance or perform any of that humiliation rituals mutts love.

I don't really understand American commute. I would rather work minimum wage job at Amazon, but live 5 minute away and just ride my bike there, than drive for an hour to work for good money

My work is barely work.

>>25750958 >>25750967 >He doesn't like mandatory dance break

>>25751053 Sounds horrible.

>>25751049 nobody lives 5 minutes away bro, everyone lives in the suburbs while the city is merely a place for work. zoning laws prevent mixing housing and commerical buildings.

>>25751049 my boss rides his bike to the office but I mostly work from home

>>25751061 Lots of people live in the city, but it's for young people. Anyone starting a family will want a house.

>>25751061 Interesting, for example the only Amazon warehouse in my area is in Bolesławiec (on the right), and as you can see, there are some houses right near it (on the left). I only worked 3 years of my life, but I learned the most important thing is to cut your commute to minimum, that's the only way life as a wagie can be bearable.

>>25751061 >zoning laws prevent mixing housing and commerical buildings. Imagine believing this is true in urbanized areas of the country. Nigga watches too much YouTube. There is mixed use everywhere in the city.

>>25751084 Plenty of such cases here but even if you lived in a nearby development, biking would probably be scary.

>>25751086 >Imagine believing this is true in urbanized areas of the country. Nigga watches too much YouTube. There is mixed use everywhere in the city. Yep saw it from City Beautiful. he also said that lawns are racist can't find the video though. Also, if there's low cost housing, there'll be niggers in it. That's why Dave Chappelle is so against it on his hometown lmao.

White Americans have ADHD by default

>>25751112 I once referred to an apartment building as "section 8" with a negative connotation and a coworker implied I was being racist. But that shithole had drug deals, gun shots, and car door checking brigades

>>25751116 So true, give me my uppers please