I remember arguing with schizos last month, how solar is a scam, and its impossible that a 6k solar system makes it so you pay nothing for electricity, because then everybody would get it.
I even asked my dad again, how many months in the year you have to buy, and he said basically never, except a few days in winter. The solar system on my brothers roof already produces 60 kwh a day, and its not summer yet. Some jap guy said "If you knew what a kwh is, you wouldn't think thats much". Literally psychotic. Not even a family uses up 60 kwh a day.
So basically Kc is full of schizos that have no clue about the real world, but call something impossible because of some hunch they have.
Total posts: 83,
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Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:45:05 GMT
No. 25646112
>>25646125
Most people on KC live with their parents in some shitholes
how do you expect them to know something about solars
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:46:24 GMT
No. 25646125
>>25646112
Why they even double down then, about stuff you can easily google. They basically said its some conspiracy, and a scam, based on no evidence at all.
How does that scam work, does the chink solar field trick the electric grid into you not paying for electricity?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:47:21 GMT
No. 25646134
You got trolled by sonbasket schizos.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:47:40 GMT
No. 25646136
>>25646140
If I owned a house I'd definitely get panels and that parabolic water heater thing.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:48:38 GMT
No. 25646140
>>25646136
My dad has a system where solar just heats up water in a gigantic well insulated water tank in the day.
He also has a wood oven, that also feeds into this system. So instead of a battery, he has a energy storage by heat.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:49:29 GMT
No. 25646149
>>25646151
>>25646104
you know the roof is supposed to protect your house. why put a bunch of fragile glass over top of it?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:49:48 GMT
No. 25646151
>>25646156
>>25646149
Wow, good argument.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:50:26 GMT
No. 25646156
>>25646159
>>25646163
>>25646151
do you take it down when its windy or storming? sounds like a pain in the ass to save a few pennies
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:51:00 GMT
No. 25646159
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:51:33 GMT
No. 25646163
>>25646156
If 1-2 fields might break in 15 years, they are easily replaced, one cost like 60 bucks.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:52:24 GMT
No. 25646169
>>25646173
i dont think that shit would last where im at. too many thunderstorms with high winds and hail
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:53:11 GMT
No. 25646173
>>25646181
>>25646169
There is solar fields you can walk on. Are you telling me where you are nobody has solar?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:54:59 GMT
No. 25646181
>>25646173
i dont see it. unfortunately my state got grifted by the wind energy scam
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:56:07 GMT
No. 25646189
worth in germany because you fuckers are ripped off in energy costs
all that to burn coal
germans are something
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:56:40 GMT
No. 25646198
>>25646213
>60 kwh a day, and its not summer yet
Yeah right...Is this his setup?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:56:41 GMT
No. 25646199
This is a reason why California is starting to raise taxes on solar installs and electric sold back to the grid, because our utility is losing money since too many people are getting solar
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:57:38 GMT
No. 25646211
60kW a day
that you get 20 cent for ?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 17:57:54 GMT
No. 25646213
>>25646198
No, this. He has only like 35 modules on it i think. Or 25. Not sure right now.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:00:25 GMT
No. 25646233
>>25646238
It costs a lot to buy it for one.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:00:43 GMT
No. 25646238
>>25646242
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:01:31 GMT
No. 25646242
>>25646238
If I had that much extra, I could buy everything I need and have over half left to invest into something nice.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:01:54 GMT
No. 25646245
>>25646248
it's not a scam but very dubious investment, basically if your retarded government don't run a program that allow you to sell electricity, it's very unlikely you break even
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:01:55 GMT
No. 25646246
>>25646252
Do you have more data?
It would be interesting to see production over months as well as battery charge/discharge.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:02:24 GMT
No. 25646248
>>25646256
>>25646245
I would break even in a few years, even without selling a single watt, just by not having to pay for electricity.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:03:01 GMT
No. 25646252
>>25646279
>>25646402
>>25646246
How much it did so far in this month.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:03:17 GMT
No. 25646256
>>25646262
>>25646248
It breaks even in a decade. Not less than 5 years. Most people can't think further ahead more than 2 weeks and they'd rather have the money now.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:03:43 GMT
No. 25646262
>>25646266
>>25646256
In germany in breaks even in 4-5 years max.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:04:09 GMT
No. 25646266
>>25646271
>>25646262
Good for you, that's still a long time. You have no idea how poor people really are.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:04:32 GMT
No. 25646271
>>25646276
>>25646266
Maybe such people should lift themselves up by their bootstrap
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:05:12 GMT
No. 25646276
>>25646278
>>25646271
Such people are too stupid to realize that lifting yourself up like that is physically impossible. How do you expect them to have 6k cash?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:05:52 GMT
No. 25646278
>>25646280
>>25646276
Such people also have no house to put solar on, so not my problem.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:06:05 GMT
No. 25646279
>>25646286
>>25646252
Not bad, did you get more electric appliances since then, like electric water heater?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:06:09 GMT
No. 25646280
>>25646278
Why ask if you know the answer?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:06:48 GMT
No. 25646286
>>25646279
My brother wants to install electric water heater.
I don't have solar yet, i build my house at the end of this year.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:07:21 GMT
No. 25646292
>>25646297
>>25646307
Ho much did battery cost? How many cycles, what capacity? How does it look like?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:07:45 GMT
No. 25646297
>>25646315
>>25646349
>>25646292
Its a 10 kw battery, and its included in the 6k they spend on this entire system.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:07:57 GMT
No. 25646299
>>25646302
my electric bill is like 75 bucks a month
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:08:21 GMT
No. 25646302
>>25646299
60 kwh is enough for electricity and heating.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:09:08 GMT
No. 25646307
>>25646292
The battery model.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:09:22 GMT
No. 25646309
>>25646312
>>25647148
>>25646104
> 60 kwh a day
lol wat?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:09:34 GMT
No. 25646312
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:10:01 GMT
No. 25646315
>>25646323
>>25646297
That seems like a shit deal, haggle them for more batteries.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:10:25 GMT
No. 25646321
True, right wing are retards who shill for billionaires and oil industry for free
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:10:33 GMT
No. 25646323
>>25646329
>>25646315
What would you need more for. You just need the battery for your electric usage in the evening. 10 kw should be enough for most.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:11:12 GMT
No. 25646329
>>25646331
>>25646323
Well you can listen to me or you can find out when you're forced to pay for electricity because of shit weather that lasted more than 10 hours.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:11:50 GMT
No. 25646331
>>25646337
>>25646329
Who cares about such things. The few bucks you will pay in a year.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:12:13 GMT
No. 25646332
>>25646341
I can see how it saves a lot of money in Germany. But that's also because of your retarded government which made energy prices explode. It's cheaper here. And in the US even cheaper.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:12:39 GMT
No. 25646335
>>25646345
>>25646104
>The solar system on my brothers roof already produces 60 kwh a day
What the hell?
In my house we spend 30kwh a month, Your brother's system can power my house 2x
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:12:58 GMT
No. 25646337
>>25646343
>>25646331
Why even have solar if you're going to waste most energy and store practically none of it?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:13:20 GMT
No. 25646341
>>25646332
One of the guys that argued with me was german himself.
He should have known how expensive it is. But it doesn't even matter, because the people didn't argue if its worth it or not, they argued that it doesn't produce enough electricity for own usage.
They said "Its a scam. Just think about it. If its too good to be true, its not true. If it produced enough for your usage, everybody would have it".
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:13:50 GMT
No. 25646343
>>25646346
>>25646337
You store 10 kw of it. Thats more enough for your use case in the night where you don't produce.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:14:19 GMT
No. 25646345
>>25646362
>>25646393
>>25646335
>In my house we spend 30kwh a month
I somehow doubt that.
You mean a day?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:14:37 GMT
No. 25646346
>>25646353
>>25647100
>>25646343
And what about unproductive days?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:15:27 GMT
No. 25646349
>>25646365
>>25646297
What are the tolerances for capacity degradation? My commieblock pod consumes 5-7 kwh of electric power per day. No water heaters or central heating of any kind.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:15:43 GMT
No. 25646353
>>25646364
>>25646346
They almost don't exist. Even on very cloudy days it produces enough over the days to fill the battery back up.
Why would you waste money on a second battery, that just slowly degrades for that few days that almost never happen.
You can rather buy a new one then in 10-15 years when the old one is used up. By then it also will be like 10 times cheaper.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:15:58 GMT
No. 25646356
>>25646104
>IMG_20250315_174102.webp
The schizos (boys just wanna have fun) made you climb the roof. You could haven fallen down and died just because you argued with schizos on the internet.
I am not sure if you are the winner here, son
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:16:11 GMT
No. 25646359
It's not a scam, if you have a decent area
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:16:38 GMT
No. 25646362
>>25646370
>>25646393
>>25646345
Brazil is very warm and sunny, 80% of the time the only thing on is my computer, the only heating element is our shower which we use only a few minutes every day
There's simply not many things to consume electricity
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:16:48 GMT
No. 25646364
>>25646353
Maybe I'm just overestimating energy consumption, but 10kW is fucking nothing unless you live alone and only have a fridge.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:16:50 GMT
No. 25646365
>>25646349
No idea. But that chink stuff is so cheap that you just buy a new one when its too bad. It probably will still have the majority of its capacity in 6-7 years.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:17:32 GMT
No. 25646370
>>25646383
>>25646362
What about your gaming pc with a 4090 ti and big display for it?
They alone will use up more than 30 kwh in a month.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:17:45 GMT
No. 25646372
in sweden half a year light day is like 6 hours
and you need electricity mostly in WINTER
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:18:26 GMT
No. 25646376
>>25646381
Never make irl decisions based on kc info
I wasted years of my life because imageboard neets fed me a distorted view of the job market
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:18:46 GMT
No. 25646381
>>25646376
simply never enter job market
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:19:01 GMT
No. 25646383
>>25646389
>>25646390
>>25646370
>What about your gaming pc with a 4090 ti
You mean my Dual Core with a 550 ti which I use for kohlchan and rarely game at all?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:20:00 GMT
No. 25646389
>>25646398
>>25646383
why brazil so poor
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:20:05 GMT
No. 25646390
>>25646398
>>25646383
And how much does your water heater consume?
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:20:53 GMT
No. 25646393
>>25646345
>>25646362
I grossly miscalculated it, I just checked my power bill and we actually consume 170kwh a month
My bad
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:22:33 GMT
No. 25646398
>>25646389
+200% tax on everything
>>25646390
5500w hour
Yes, it's an energy hog
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:22:49 GMT
No. 25646399
>heating
just paint your house black nigga
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:22:53 GMT
No. 25646400
>>25646406
>>25646104
>my dad
We're arguing with a kid lol.
Come back when you financed that shit yourself.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:22:57 GMT
No. 25646402
>>25646252
I use twice as much in a whole year. Wow
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:23:21 GMT
No. 25646406
>>25646407
>>25646421
>>25646400
Im not even talking about my solar you schizo. And im over 30.
Sorry that you are not close to your family. Very sad.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:23:43 GMT
No. 25646407
>>25646409
>>25646406
>And im over 30.
I don't believe you, Finn-Lukas
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:23:54 GMT
No. 25646409
>>25646407
Thats not my problem.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:25:40 GMT
No. 25646421
>>25646426
>>25646406
>close to your family
Achtung! Keinberd-Posten, sofort evakuieren!
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:26:04 GMT
No. 25646426
>>25646421
Its because we are albanian. We are all very close.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:27:45 GMT
No. 25646444
>>25646605
It would be cheaper to buy used datacenter UPS batteries (they stack nicely inside a 19" rack), and charge them at night during low price hours.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:47:07 GMT
No. 25646605
>>25646444
For 6k for the entire system im not gonna start messing around with some diy solution.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 18:59:35 GMT
No. 25646732
>>25647167
>The average solar panel system is around 3.5 kilowatt peak (kWp). The kWp is the maximum amount of power the system can generate in ideal conditions. A 3.5kWp system typically covers 20m2 of roof
3.5 kW PEAK so around 1.5-2 kW on average conditions
assuming light day on gemnany is now 9 hours
his imaginary system gives 60/9 = 7 kW on average
sounds bullshit
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 19:36:53 GMT
No. 25647100
>>25646346
Charge the battery from grid at night rates.
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 19:42:46 GMT
No. 25647148
>>25646309
It produces 2.4kw/h, or 60kw a day
Bernd
Sat, 15 Mar 2025 19:45:39 GMT
No. 25647167
>>25646732
>>The average solar panel system is around 3.5 kilowatt peak (kWp). The kWp is the maximum amount of power the system can generate in ideal conditions. A 3.5kWp system typically covers 20m2 of roof
And this system is 10 kwp. Its the newest chink panels for a great price.
Its like half the size as the one my dad has, with same output.
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