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Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:19:22 GMT No. 25638687 [Kohl] [Report thread]
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76-year old Argentinian pensioner left IN TEARS after finding out that Milei has cut his retirement…
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Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:21:23 GMT No. 25638707
He should have worked more and picked himself up by the bootstrap before he retired
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:21:43 GMT No. 25638711
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Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:21:47 GMT No. 25638712 >>25638732 >>25638735 >>25639485 >>25640832
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>>25638687 This is coming for Americans, too.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:23:32 GMT No. 25638732 >>25638747
>>25638712 It will be funny as hell telling seething boomers to pull themselves up by their bootstraps
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:23:46 GMT No. 25638735 >>25638764
>>25638712 Difference is Milei actually achieved a budget surplus whereas the US government is massively increasing its deficit right now.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:24:52 GMT No. 25638746
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>>25638687
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:24:54 GMT No. 25638747
>>25638732 >he's getting risk of all the fraud and mismanagement in gubberment <no, he is literally stealing your money
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:25:26 GMT No. 25638752 >>25638767
omg this is so sad, we need to import these poor refugees asap into america and EU and give them 50 guhzillion dollars a month
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:25:38 GMT No. 25638756 >>25638770 >>25638856
I somehow have no compassion for Boomers. Even in places like Argentina they lived golden lives. And yes, I might have more material wealth but the future is completely fucked and every one of us will see human civilization crumble into dust. That might sound fun but it's actually not.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:26:37 GMT No. 25638764
>>25638735 US is the world reserve currency, they basically leech from the world. As long as this doesn't change they can't be bothered.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:26:44 GMT No. 25638767
>>25638752 Stfu retard
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:26:50 GMT No. 25638770 >>25638856
>>25638756 You're a rare kind of poster, usually boomer haters actually think that they were super rich and got paid millions just to push a button at work.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:35:54 GMT No. 25638854 >>25640924
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welfare leech commies crying = good times
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:36:12 GMT No. 25638856 >>25638889
>>25638756 >>25638770 You're really dumb if you think an individual could have changed things. Just like you won't change your generation
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:40:05 GMT No. 25638889 >>25638899
>>25638856 I never hinted at that. We are primed by evolution to do the things we do and humans just got too successful for their own good a looooong time ago. We as a species successfully kicked the can down the road but each of us, I guess even the old man in the video, will see the end of this road.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:41:34 GMT No. 25638899 >>25638918
>>25638889 have you even evolved at all? you're just a cow that followed the one cow out of the field that figured out how to open the gate.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:43:55 GMT No. 25638918 >>25638930
>>25638899 No Scotsman would talk about cows.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:45:23 GMT No. 25638930 >>25638951
>>25638918 how much of your brain is left from lac rot?
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:46:29 GMT No. 25638942 >>25639111 >>25639248
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>>25638687 If you pay into the system your whole working career, they shouldn't be allowed to cut you off. That sucks Not sure what a pension is compared to Social Security tho
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:47:37 GMT No. 25638951
>>25638930 Enough to have read and understand this paper. Can you say the same?
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:48:25 GMT No. 25638957
BASED fuck parasites
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:51:05 GMT No. 25638978
We have a pay-as-you-go pension system and there is currently 1.77 working individuals for each pensioner, it was 4 working individuals 60 years ago. There is no way this ponzi system will work for us like for boomers. People not investing in some stuff will end like this old argie.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 20:56:12 GMT No. 25639029 >>25639080 >>25639120 >>25641263 >>25641344
In my home (Germany) everyone knows that the pension system is going to collapse within the next 20 years. There are simply going to be too many pensioners and too few working age people. Everyone knows it is going to happen, but there are no political discussions about this at all. Zoomer are protesting for climate and shit like that but they don't care at all that boomers are stealing from them and that they will have no pensions. It seems so insane to me. Is the situation the same in other European countries?
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:00:07 GMT No. 25639080 >>25639122
>>25639029 I guess everybody is hoping the problem will solve itself with some magical increments to production brought by AI or something It's not like there is a solution under the current paradigm anyways
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:02:23 GMT No. 25639111
>>25638942 Nothing is guaranteed in life, if you trust the government with your retirement you're setting yourself up for failure
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:03:12 GMT No. 25639120 >>25639125
>>25639029 Gummihals
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:03:15 GMT No. 25639122 >>25639126
>>25639080 >It's not like there is a solution under the current paradigm anyways But there is. Look at what Norway and Switzerland are doing.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:03:31 GMT No. 25639125
>>25639120 Albaner
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:03:31 GMT No. 25639126 >>25639132
>>25639122 What are they doing?
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:04:02 GMT No. 25639132 >>25639144
>>25639126 Building pension funds.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:05:15 GMT No. 25639144 >>25639159
>>25639132 Just putting more money into it is not exactly innovation... pension funds are not new
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:06:45 GMT No. 25639159 >>25639164
>>25639144 What do you mean? Germany has no mandatory pension funds. Only something that is equivalent to the American social security.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:07:30 GMT No. 25639164 >>25639194
>>25639159 Brazil has started making some mandatory pension funds for civil servants, but that is really just putting more money into it
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:10:42 GMT No. 25639194 >>25639231
>>25639164 >that is really just putting more money into it No it's not. One is transferring income from the working population to the pensioners while the other is building up capital which increases in value over time.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:11:25 GMT No. 25639202
>person completely dependent on the state is betrayed WOW this has never happened before!!
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:13:29 GMT No. 25639231 >>25639278
>>25639194 You are taking money from consumption and making it into investments, I'm not sure what is the final effect of this But yes for countries with inverted pyramids this model is probably the only one viable as of now. But we won't get back the easy pensions we had from the days of demographic surplus.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:15:35 GMT No. 25639248
>>25638942 It's exactly the same thing as the social security system, but in leftist latin american shitholes lots of people get insured by the social security system without having to pay a single penny. Milei is basically cutting gibs for everyone who never paid a single penny into the system, the problem is that these people don't have anything to do now, it makes sense logically but emotionally we feel very bad for poor spic grandpa crying because he can't get more free gibs and probably won't be able to eat.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:17:42 GMT No. 25639278 >>25639291
>>25639231 >You are taking money from consumption and making it into investments, I'm not sure what is the final effect of thi In one scenario your income is 10 bananas and you give 2 bananas to a pensioner to eat now. In return you get the promise to get x bananas when you retire, where x is an unknown low number. In the other scenario you put the bananas into the soil and have a banana plantation when you're old which yields a consistent supply of bananas.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:19:46 GMT No. 25639291 >>25639303
>>25639278 In a way both are promises since the rentability of pension funds is not something guaranteed either
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:21:13 GMT No. 25639303 >>25639308
>>25639291 Yes but the odds are much in favor of the banana plantation being a better deal.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:21:38 GMT No. 25639308
>>25639303 Yeah as it stands it is
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:24:19 GMT No. 25639336 >>25639437 >>25640855
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Raise the pensions without raising taxes! Tax the rich instead! Oh they are leaving the country? We need socialism. Having kids? Oh sweet summer child, having kids is actually WRONG!
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:32:29 GMT No. 25639415
Argentine = ZOG.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:34:13 GMT No. 25639437 >>25639800
>>25639336 Do you still have this kind of retatded leftists even after the country going bankrupt? It is a mental illness, we must kill them all.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:37:20 GMT No. 25639462 >>25639529
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not my problem
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:40:19 GMT No. 25639485 (removed)
>>25638687 >>25638712 It already has.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:42:54 GMT No. 25639509 >>25639514
AFUERA!
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:44:13 GMT No. 25639514
>>25639509 this
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:46:05 GMT No. 25639529
>>25639462 How can I get such gf?
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:48:52 GMT No. 25639548
Is the logic consequence of anarcocapitalist politics
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:12:02 GMT No. 25639800 >>25640841
>>25639437 Half of the country is Peronist. Another flavor of collectivist mentality where people think that a third world country government has bottomless pockets and taxing corporations to increase welfare will benefit the taxed corporations (they will sell more!) We also have the urban middle class thinking that Europe is a socialist paradise and we should install every European policy with no questions asked. The world is doomed anyways, Milei is a shabbos goy.
Bernd Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:27:06 GMT No. 25639908 >>25641085
Lolberts and their consequences have been an utter disaster for the Argentine nation.
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Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 00:53:09 GMT No. 25640832
>>25638712 I'm ok with this because boomers need to suffer.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 00:55:24 GMT No. 25640841 >>25641041
>>25639800 Peronism works and is what you'll go back to now that USAID and the CIA are destroyed. In case it is not obvious, with American diplomacy shattered Argentina is on a high speed one way street into socialism. It'll be like Mexico or Venezuela where the national reform justice party nationalizes all the lithium, oil and gold and then you are rich selling it to the new multipolar world order between China, Russia, EU and USA. This is Latinoamerica's greatest era now that America is reducing, China is slowing and USSR is destroyed. There is only growth for hispanic culture now, and you will ride this crest into the 22nd century.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 00:59:52 GMT No. 25640855 >>25640980 >>25640985
>>25639336 >Tax the rich instead! Oh they are leaving the country? Retard even the capitalist dystopia known as the US keeps getting taxes from Americans who move abroad, no one escapaes from the tax man there.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:24:43 GMT No. 25640924
he is most likely peronism, he doen't fix the inflation and they are the corruption now >>25638854 now the rightards are on wellfare
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:30:05 GMT No. 25640940 >>25640967
Not my problem. Next life work harder and save for retirement, old man.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:38:48 GMT No. 25640967 >>25640989
>>25640940 Its actually insane people think this way. At that point, why even have a society. We can just live like niggers, where you just die the moment you can't feed yourself.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:40:55 GMT No. 25640980
>>25640855 Very bad exemple. Only 3 countries (US, Phillipines and Eritrea) have citizenship based taxation. For the rest of the world, rich people move abroad if they want to pay less taxes.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:42:27 GMT No. 25640985
>>25640855 How does that work? Like people could just revoke their american citizenship if they wanted to?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:43:02 GMT No. 25640989 >>25641014 >>25641024 >>25641241
>>25640967 Absolutely wrong. That's why you have kids, grandchildren, nephews, whatever. Actual niggers from some tribe in the sahara desert would feed their elder, which in turn provides them with his wisdom. Why should he be paid for existing? Then why do I even work? when I get old I will just get money for existing. If he didn't have kids, or has no family, or relatives who can help him that means the society is wrong or he is a genetic failure
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:47:09 GMT No. 25641014 >>25641021
>>25640989 Fuck off with this retardet trad talk, like you have any idea what you are talking about. Do you have any children? Of course not, you are a gf less neet, that never worked hard in your entire life. You will never have kids. So it should be ok that you just starve once you are too old to work? You know exactly that in this system even if you have kids, they will often opt to not help you, and just concentrate on themselves. And don't give me that bullshit that you just have to raise them a little bit different, and suddenly they will be perfect kids that will help you. You know its not true. Its always the biggest losers that say this retardet shit. You basically think like a nigger. I don't care about cutting all welfare to shitskins and invaders. But having 0 social thought for my fellow germans is literally nigger behavior. You are a nigger, nothing else.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:47:55 GMT No. 25641021 >>25641031
>>25641014 > So it should be ok that you just starve once you are too old to work? yes
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:48:24 GMT No. 25641024 >>25641038 >>25641048
>>25640989 I have the feeling the next generations will go back to that. Having automatic state pensions even if you had no kids is peak individualism and not substainable at all. This German bernd like many western Euro doesn't even realize that, it's insane.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:49:14 GMT No. 25641031 >>25641055
>>25641021 Yeah, you a nigger. Don't know what else to say. Or just a edgy teen that never had to suffer in your entire life and has no perspective yet.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:49:50 GMT No. 25641038 >>25641132
>>25641024 he thinks money grows in trees, the reason shitskins are imported to begin with is that the pension system is unsustainable, but for such retard it's fine, prob some vegetarian cunt
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:50:37 GMT No. 25641041 >>25641062
>>25640841 You have no idea how Peronist work ethics are: if an engineer makes 100k a pencil pusher should win 97k, and the toilet cleaner 95k. Everyone has the "right" to have a job even if that job doesn't contribute to society. That's why we can't compete against the Chinese. Protectionism could work the mid XX century but it's literally impossible with shit work ethics. Yeah the CIA committed crimes in SA but that doesn't change the fact that socialism will never work.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:51:30 GMT No. 25641048 >>25641132
>>25641024 Its insane that you would let people just starve to death after having worked all their life in this system, specially with the industrial output we have, and gonna have in the future with AI. How can you be this much of a nigger that you would let a fellow countryman starve to death just because they are not 140 IQ geniuses like you bernd, that already plan for the future far ahead and have a job that allows them to invest enough to be set for life.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:52:09 GMT No. 25641052
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Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:52:38 GMT No. 25641055 >>25641065
>>25641031 yadayadayda you single mother cunt. no one in history was ever paid for existing, besides by your immediate family, your children and grandchildren owe you since they wouldn't exist if it wasn't for you, therefore it makes perfect sense that they would pay and sustain you for existing, CLANS could to the same for distant relatives, it's not as if elders are totally useless anyways since as I said they can provide wisdom like me being old telling my youngsters that you are a bitch not worth of marriage, but why should I pay for you to exist with 30 cats in some dump?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:54:02 GMT No. 25641062 >>25641104
>>25641041 What does this "compete against the chinese" even mean? There is no tight battle, where we have to all work like slaves to compete against chinks. Why we in germany have worker rights, and don't work on sundays and only work 48 hours? We should just drop all that, and work 7 days a week to compete against the chinks. 40 years ago the big scary gook was the japs, and we worried their economy outcompetes ours, now its the chinks. What, are you worried soon chinks will invade us if we can't produce as many plastic gadgets as them?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:54:59 GMT No. 25641065 >>25641067
>>25641055 Go back to africa shitskin, and you can live the way you want to. You are not fit to be in a society. I rather listen for social issues to hitler than some paki.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:55:35 GMT No. 25641067 >>25641077 >>25641084
>>25641065 you are a shitskin who wants to be paid for existing mate, you are dumb as a rock
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:57:00 GMT No. 25641077 >>25641083 >>25641555
>>25641067 Im top 10% earner in germany, im already set for my retirement. And i have no issue paying tax so fellow germans that didn't get as lucky as me recieve some help. You are just a edgy teen that never had to suffer in his life, i say this again.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:58:56 GMT No. 25641083 >>25641086
>>25641077 yeah whatever, see how dumb (and probably brown) you are, you are not paying for your fellow germans but for SOMALI and other browns fucktard In an ideal society whatever some old fart like op video's need would be provided by his immediate or if he was very unlucky or subhuman by his distant relatives
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 01:59:07 GMT No. 25641084 >>25641091
>>25641067 So whats your job bernd? And how many kids you have yet, that will care for you when you are old?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:00:03 GMT No. 25641085
>>25639908 >Lolberts and their consequences I'm sure the hyperinflation and rampant poverty of the previous administrations had nothing to do with it.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:00:12 GMT No. 25641086 >>25641092 >>25641137
>>25641083 So if you can't have children and have no distant family you just starve. Sucks to be you. Or if you are a unlovable incel like you.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:00:56 GMT No. 25641091 >>25641095
>>25641084 Also better hope to not get disabled. If you are 30, and then have a accident and can't work, well sucks to be you. In ideal society such people just have to starve to death.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:01:19 GMT No. 25641092 >>25641096
>>25641086 >have no distant family that's literally impossible unless you migrate very far away
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:01:47 GMT No. 25641095
>>25641091 nope, that befits the clan and immediate family thing
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:01:52 GMT No. 25641096 >>25641098
>>25641092 You think someone would care for their 4th degre cousin?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:02:19 GMT No. 25641098 >>25641103
>>25641096 3000 years ago? sure
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:02:49 GMT No. 25641100 >>25641106 >>25641109
I don't get what point the "limey" is trying to make. Pensions are the fruit of one's own labors, being taken out of your check to help pay for retirement. True, one shouldn't rely on it as the only method of income in retirement, but it is there for a reason. And we in the West for better or worse don't live in a clan-based society so that isn't an option.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:03:24 GMT No. 25641103 >>25641110
>>25641098 Yes, but we don't live 3000 years ago. Not even in nazi germany you could have such a system. Even there the state stepped in to help people not as lucky. But you instead want a society as we already have in most african and arab shitholes. Why not move back there?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:03:41 GMT No. 25641104
>>25641062 Japan and Korea are American vassal states.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:04:05 GMT No. 25641106 >>25641116
>>25641100 Normal worker also has no disposable income to invest enough into retirement.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:04:15 GMT No. 25641109 >>25641153
>>25641100 >Pensions are the fruit of one's own labors Not if it is a tax-payer funded job.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:04:31 GMT No. 25641110 >>25641112 >>25641137
>>25641103 you are a somali lover who wants to provide to little mutt bulbheaded niggers your opinion is irrelevant
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:04:49 GMT No. 25641112
>>25641110 Whatever helps you sleep at night. I see you have run out of arguments.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:05:30 GMT No. 25641116 >>25641118
>>25641106 Yet normal workers in first-world countries still can afford luxuries.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:05:58 GMT No. 25641118 >>25641123
>>25641116 Like what?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:06:33 GMT No. 25641123 >>25641138
>>25641118 You are using one now to communicate with me.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:07:46 GMT No. 25641132 >>25641145
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>>25641038 >the reason shitskins are imported to begin with is that the pension system is unsustainable Not the only reason but yeah, they literally said to boomers that immigrants were going to pay for our pensions in the 90's and early 2000's, I still remember about that. >>25641048 I don't know about Argentina but for France, I don't see why I would give money for people who believed that the current pension system can work even if there is 1 worker for 2 pensioners. This is simple math and we all know that the population is aging and we don't make enough babies. Plus French massively protested against working after 62yo, even less excuses. I am sorry but the only reason this fucked up pension system is still allowed is because politicians don't want to lose the election despite they know it's already dead.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:08:13 GMT No. 25641137 >>25641149 >>25641158
>>25641086 Why do people who get zero pussy always call others incels? Very strange behavior. >>25641110 You're arguing with a little kid. When he grows up and gets a job, he'll realize you can't save everyone and an unsustainable pension system won't fix that. If families stayed together or friends had each other's backs these days then this wouldn't be a problem.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:08:13 GMT No. 25641138 >>25641155
>>25641123 You think if they just don't get a phone or computer that would be enough to be set for their retirement? Also we just have to be realistic that the majority of people are retardet and low impulse control, and won't save for retirement. The question is if we should such people just starve to death once they are old. At some point we as a society decided that this is a horrible outcome and that we at least should do the bare minimum so such people don't just starve once they are too old to work.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:08:59 GMT No. 25641145 >>25641248
>>25641132 > I don't see why I would give money for people who believed that the current pension system can work So they should starve to death because they didn't had the same opinion about the pension system as you?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:09:44 GMT No. 25641149 >>25641159 >>25641179
>>25641137 >Why do people who get zero pussy always call others incels? Very strange behavior. > NO its actually you that can't get pussy Ok sweaty
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:10:47 GMT No. 25641153
>>25641109 Sure, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. Besides, soldiers, researchers (actual researchers, not the meme social sciences types) and other useful jobs at least contribute something back to society, unlike the average bureaucrat.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:10:51 GMT No. 25641155 >>25641173
>>25641138 >You think if they just don't get a phone or computer that would be enough to be set for their retirement? Considering the monthly payment plans, yes. Not to mention all the other luxuries the average blue-collar worker consumes (alcohol, tobacco, and netflix). I have a typical warehouse job and am able to save 20% of my income.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:11:22 GMT No. 25641158
>>25641137 Im top 10% of earners in germany. And we totally can save everyone. We are not some poor shithole, we have enough to not let people starve on the streets. We simply can stop importing shitskins and wasting 60 billion yearly on them.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:11:32 GMT No. 25641159 >>25641179
>>25641149 >sweaty ESL moment
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:13:30 GMT No. 25641173 >>25641206 >>25641206
>>25641155 Yeah, and your average bydlo amazon worker won't save for his retirement in like 50 years. So you either have the government take part of their wage, and invest it for them, so they don't starve to death once older. Or we go le libertarian route where we just tell ourselfs its ok they just starve to death once they are old.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:13:51 GMT No. 25641179 >>25641193 >>25641210
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>>25641149 When you've run out of things to say, you start attacking how much sex someone does or doesn't have. It has nothing to do with the discussion at hand and that tells me more than enough about (You). >>25641159 It's a meme to spell 'sweetie' that way. He is very butthurt that I called him out on being a virgin who says others are incels once his weak arguments run out of steam. If you really want to know he's an ESL, he calls others 'retarded' but cannot even spell the word right himself. Sad stuff.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:15:05 GMT No. 25641193 >>25641212 >>25641241
>>25641179 >When you've run out of things to say, you start attacking how much sex someone does or doesn't have. It has nothing to do with the discussion at hand and that tells me more than enough about (You). Are you actually 89 IQ? The argument here literally revolves around the topic of having kids. It has nothing to do with how much sex you have, but offspring. Please scroll back up, and read you retardet mutt.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:17:10 GMT No. 25641206 >>25641215
>>25641173 >Yeah, and your average bydlo amazon worker won't save for his retirement in like 50 years. That's their fault for poor money management. >>25641173 >Or we go le libertarian route where we just tell ourselfs its ok they just starve to death once they are old. The libertarian route would be to not steal their income via taxes and monetary inflation and to refund their social security to allow them to invest it. Government is a poor vehicle for investment.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:17:39 GMT No. 25641210 >>25641217 >>25641241
>>25641179 You literally do the virgin argument, not me. Im not saying his argument is wrong, because he is a virgin or incel. Im asking the question if he deserves to starve to death once he is too old because he is a childless incel. Im no incel, i have a gf i hope to marry soon, but even i have no kids yet at 30 years old. And i know anything can happen, i could lose her, i maybe fuck up and lose my job and don't find a new gf, or i could have gotten unlucky in the first place and never found anybody. We are not the elitre of the gene pool here on Kc. Many here will end up without offspring. And the brit says if you fucked up and don't have family to care for you, well fuck you, you just die. I can't imagine being over 25 and still having such a retardet libertarian mindset. It only can come from people that never had to suffer in their life ever.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:18:14 GMT No. 25641212 >>25641218
>>25641193 >retardet Your English skills are so poor that there is not way you are a top 10% earner.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:18:54 GMT No. 25641215 >>25641232
>>25641206 Majority of people won't invest. Many people don't even care for what happens in 2 years, even less 50 years. Even hitler realized that you can't have people just starve on the streets because they got unlucky. But then again you are american, so you probably hate hitler because he was a "Commie socialist".
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:18:59 GMT No. 25641217 >>25641220
>>25641210 Yes, sometimes you just get fucked by life, and no one is there to hold your hand or wipe your ass
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:19:18 GMT No. 25641218 >>25641224
>>25641212 So you have no argument and have to attack spelling mistakes.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:19:41 GMT No. 25641220
>>25641217 Yes, in your shithole country. In white societies there is.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:21:30 GMT No. 25641224 >>25641227
>>25641218 Numerous spelling mistakes and poor grammar? Then, yes, it supports my argument.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:21:57 GMT No. 25641225
Pensions? AFUERA!
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:22:06 GMT No. 25641227 >>25641247
>>25641224 You are like a retardet redditor starting to point out spelling mistakes the moment you are losing the debate because you have no arguments.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:23:22 GMT No. 25641232 >>25641244
>>25641215 >Majority of people won't invest. How do you know that?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:25:27 GMT No. 25641241 >>25641256
>>25641193 You can argue about pensions without having sex. That is, if you have relatives like cousins or nephews as mentioned here: >>25640989 to fall back on as an old man despite being childless yourself, you will find yourself with drier eyes than the gentleman in the opening post. Calling people incels does not aid your position in any way and signals to more level-headed people that you are insecure about something. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to see what that could be. Wanna try that again or do you want to make yourself look even more retarded? Makes no difference to me. >>25641210 >You literally do the virgin argument, not me. Calling someone an 'unlovable incel' isn't? Best of luck to you and the Mrs. Butthurt-to-be.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:26:22 GMT No. 25641244
>>25641232 Because majority of people are low IQ bydlo. They can't even invest in their health and stop smoking or drinking, because they don't care what happens in 40 years. The only way many are invested right now is thru government programs, or the employee investing in retirement accounts. People have more than enough money to invest right now, but they don't, they basically have to be forced into it. Lets don't pretend the taxes in america are so high that people don't invest. People rather spend it right now on nice stuff than spend it for the distant future.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:26:46 GMT No. 25641247 >>25641258 >>25641261
>>25641227 The debate is about your "top income earner" status, and I already provided evidence that casts doubt on it.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:26:53 GMT No. 25641248
>>25641145 >they didn't had the same opinion about the pension system as you It's not about having "an opinion" on a certain policy, it's about not lying to yourself and accepting the reality as it is.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:28:40 GMT No. 25641256 >>25641314
>>25641241 >Calling people incels does not aid your position in any way and signals to more level-headed people that you are insecure about something. Are you just very sensitive about the word incel? Again, if you are a incel like the brit that has no kids, do you deserve to starve to death? You know your cousins will give no shit about you. So if you get unlucky, for example have a accident with 30 and can't work, and you are a incel with no kids, you should just starve to death? Try to not get emotional about the word incel, its ok bernd, we all incels here. No need to get defensive.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:29:20 GMT No. 25641258
>>25641247 Oh thats the issue? Yeah, you are free to believe whatever you like.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:30:16 GMT No. 25641261 >>25641302 >>25641474
>>25641247 You are already top 10% in germany at 3700 euros btw.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:31:09 GMT No. 25641263
>>25639029 They are solving it with immigration. You just aren't taking in nearly enough. Not to worry, your new conservative government will fix that
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:39:43 GMT No. 25641290
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How can unc be 76, lived through Bitcoin going from cents to 100k and Solana memecoins and still be broke? There are 18yos who retired their parents the last bullrun. Skill issue. Lock in, learn to gamble oldhead.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:42:39 GMT No. 25641302 >>25641306 >>25641316
>>25641261 It's $14,000 minimum in the US for the top 10% and our median income is close to Germany's.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:43:27 GMT No. 25641306
>>25641302 Are you doubting the numbers? For a single in germany you are top 10% earner at 3700 after tax.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:44:39 GMT No. 25641314 >>25641321
>>25641256 >Are you just very sensitive about the word incel? No. >Again, if you are a incel like the brit that has no kids, do you deserve to starve to death? No one "deserves" anything. Nothing entitles you to something hot to eat once you work hard nor rags on your back when it's cold outside. >So if you get unlucky... In better times, you would have your family. An incel who retires from the coal mines with empty pockets to his name could still live with his nephews or siblings' grandchildren supporting him because he is family to them. I feel nothing when I see the man in the OP cry. Yet, if that were my grandfather, I would be filled with indignation, that I should do something because a blood relative is suffering. >Try to not get emotional about the word incel, its ok bernd Grow up.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:44:57 GMT No. 25641316 >>25641351
>>25641302 In this case it makes more sense to look at average than median. When looking at the top 10%, median income is meaningless.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:46:00 GMT No. 25641321 >>25641362 >>25641391
>>25641314 So if you are a bernd that has a work accident with 30, and has no close family, you simply starve to death?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:49:30 GMT No. 25641342
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Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:49:49 GMT No. 25641344 >>25641353
>>25639029 Here government promotes long term personal investing. Oldfags (who are used to their savings vanishing unless kept under the pillow) don't fall for that and they don't have that much left to live aka receive pensions for. Younger people are well aware that pensions are never as big as salaries and most likely will not even be there for them, so they do invest a lot or buy apartments to rent them out so they could retire.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:51:14 GMT No. 25641351 >>25641364 >>25641365
>>25641316 Average would skew it in favor of higher earners. That is why the median income is lower than the mean income.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:51:19 GMT No. 25641353 >>25641375
>>25641344 But just by the numbers you never can have everybody rent out to survive and invest.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:52:11 GMT No. 25641362 >>25641372
>>25641321 Worker's comp/insurance or mutual aid societies would provide for that worker. No need for government.
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>>25641351 What if some people work a job where they lose 1 million per hour?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:52:51 GMT No. 25641365 >>25641370
>>25641351 >Average would skew it in favor of higher earners. That is why the median income is lower than the mean income. But we are looking at top 10% regardless, so its not relevant. Median makes no sense here. Median wage might be similar, but the top 10% in germany and america are still very different. Your super rich have hundreds of billions. Our super rich have a few billion. That explains your difference for how much you have to earn to be top 10% in germany, and in usa.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:54:11 GMT No. 25641370 >>25641374
>>25641365 >But we are looking at top 10% regardless, That's why I specified the minimum cutoff for the 10%.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:54:27 GMT No. 25641372 >>25641384
>>25641362 >No need for government. Ahhh so im just talking with some libertarian. Ah ok, so this is all about your libertarian utopia without government. Not gonna waste time arguing with teens, same way i don't argue with commies or anarchists.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:54:53 GMT No. 25641374
>>25641370 Yes, and in germany you are top 10% earner as a single if you make 3700 after tax.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:55:04 GMT No. 25641375
>>25641353 There is a ton of other passive income options. Renting out at 4% when deposits return 21% and real estate prices aren't even growing is a shit deal anyway.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:57:01 GMT No. 25641384 >>25641386
>>25641372 >libertarian utopia without government. It's not utopian. We had mutual aid societies and worker's insurance throughout the 19th Century and to some extent today.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:57:14 GMT No. 25641386 >>25641401
>>25641384 Ok buddy.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:57:47 GMT No. 25641391 >>25641397
>>25641321 If you've got nothing and the system fails, then you could very well end up like the old man in the OP. That's why, historically, humans would band together and have each other's backs. Given the choice, I would rather build connections with other tangible humans instead of putting my trust in something like a pension system in case I have some debilitating work accident or some other tragedy befalls me. As the Argentinian found out the hard way, it means absolutely nothing when the machine doesn't work the way it's supposed to despite the fact you've held an honest job your whole life.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:58:49 GMT No. 25641397 >>25641415
>>25641391 And once we have libertarian utopia suddenly bernd would become sociable and would connect with people, even find gf i bet.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 02:59:55 GMT No. 25641401 >>25641406 >>25641407 >>25641409
>>25641386 <It is estimated that one-third of adult American males belonged to lodges in 1910. There was a fraternal organization that provided for virtually every major service of the modern welfare state including orphanages, hospitals, job exchanges, homes for the elderly, unemployment insurance, health insurance, pensions and scholarship programs. https://formingcommunities.com/mutual-aid-societies/
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:01:07 GMT No. 25641406 >>25641427
>>25641401 Im not arguing with you. I don't waste time on teens with their utopian dreams, be it commies or libertarians. Im sure in your mind everything just falls in place and works out once your utopia is archived. Lets keep it that way. Why destroy your fantasy.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:01:11 GMT No. 25641407 >>25641408
>>25641401 whaat? NO! i want to give my money to the government instead so they can feed a somali family - kraut vegetarian
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:01:28 GMT No. 25641408 >>25641413
>>25641407 Damn, after all this time you are still bitter?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:01:37 GMT No. 25641409 >>25641418
>>25641401 Society was a bit different in 1910. I can easily see why now this would be seen as a pure fantasy.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:02:25 GMT No. 25641413 >>25641416
>>25641408 i dont give a fuck to this whole discussion, im just fapping and messing around itt and you got assblasted
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:02:50 GMT No. 25641415 >>25641426
>>25641397 What on Earth are you talking about? Did you mean to reply to someone else?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:03:04 GMT No. 25641416 >>25641421
>>25641413 People that don't give a fuck don't go out of their way to explain how they don't give a fuck, and totally are just laughing right now and having fun.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:03:42 GMT No. 25641418
>>25641409 Because government programs disincentive the demand for such societies.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:04:09 GMT No. 25641421 >>25641429
>>25641416 don't care + you are brown
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:04:35 GMT No. 25641426 >>25641510
>>25641415 Read your own post: > Given the choice, I would rather build connections with other tangible humans instead of putting my trust in something like a pension system in case I have some debilitating work accident or some other tragedy befalls me. Bernd can do this already right now. The government doesn't keeps you from doing it. And in libertarian utopia bernd wouldn't suddenly be more sociable and connect with other humans he could rely on that would care for him once he is old.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:04:39 GMT No. 25641427 >>25641430
>>25641406 >Im not arguing with you. That's because you have no argument.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:04:52 GMT No. 25641429
>>25641421 Whatever helps you sleep at night sweaty.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:05:14 GMT No. 25641430
>>25641427 Sure.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:13:15 GMT No. 25641472
>>25638687 >surrounded by masked "protestors" who look like they are about to throw molotovs He isn't helping his case nor is it that he sounds like a poor actor exaggerating his supposed tears But nukc being the shithole full of double digit IQs it is I am sure I will be accused of sucking off milei if I point that out, then a kirschnerista if I say it's don't, etc. Meanwhile the jew laughs
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:13:59 GMT No. 25641474 >>25641479 >>25641490 >>25641521
>>25641261 Where is your source? statistik.arbeitsagentur.de states the median salary of a German is 3,945€ per month in 2023.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:14:26 GMT No. 25641479 >>25641600
>>25641474 That's before taxes
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:15:57 GMT No. 25641490 >>25641600
>>25641474 yikes. do you know what median means?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:18:38 GMT No. 25641510 >>25641518 >>25641528 >>25641539
>>25641426 >The government doesn't keep you from generating a mutual safety net with people you work or live around Then why are you asking whether someone "deserves" to die if they're ruined at age 30? If you could have taken the necessary precautions and chose not to then only the man in the mirror is to blame. >And in libertarian utopia bernd wouldn't suddenly be more sociable and connect with other humans he could rely on that would care for him once he is old. If I had an autistic or socially-stunted brother, cousin, uncle, etc., I would do something, anything, to keep him off the street and out of death's way because he would be my blood. In a more tight-knit society, plenty of which has existed in times past, it would be easier for a Bernd to survive. There weren't always screens in every building and social media keeping people separated.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:19:51 GMT No. 25641518 >>25641531
>>25641510 shuuuut tf up incel i NEED to give money to niggers
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:20:05 GMT No. 25641521 >>25641600
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>>25641474 Why you keep talking about median salaries? How is that relevant? At 4560 you are also already top 5%. At 7k after tax top 1%. The median is completly irelevant when looking at the top of the top. You don't seem to understand how statistics work. Imagine you have 2 groups, in one group most people earn around 5k, but the top 1% earn 100k. And in the other group most people earn 5k, but the top 1% earn 10k. You still have a similar median, but the top 10% would be very different.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:21:15 GMT No. 25641528
>>25641510 >Then why are you asking whether someone "deserves" to die if they're ruined at age 30? If you could have taken the necessary precautions and chose not to then only the man in the mirror is to blame. Who cares about blame? So if you are a bernd with no kids that had a work accident at 30, you deserve to starve? Why you keep avoiding this question?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:21:55 GMT No. 25641531
>>25641518 You are still bitter, damn.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:23:02 GMT No. 25641539
>>25641510 >If I had an autistic or socially-stunted brother, cousin, uncle, etc., I would do something, anything, to keep him off the street and out of death's way because he would be my blood. In a more tight-knit society, plenty of which has existed in times past, it would be easier for a Bernd to survive. There weren't always screens in every building and social media keeping people separated. And if you have no brother? What then? You are a single child, lets say you don't have a work accident, but a accident at home, are not sociable, and have no kids. You just starve to death, because of some gay kike libertarian principle?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:26:46 GMT No. 25641555 >>25641562
>>25641077 lmfao a Michel caught in the wild Mahmud and Schlomo thank your taxes and obedience
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:27:14 GMT No. 25641558
Leftshit status = owned and trolled epic style.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:27:58 GMT No. 25641562
>>25641555 I would rather not have shitskins here. But what am i supposed to do, become a neet and live like a bum to own the leftist?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:32:51 GMT No. 25641600 >>25641609
>>25641521 >The median is completly irelevant when looking at the top of the top. Well, when the median income is higher than the 10% cutoff, then it is very relevant. >>25641479 No, it is net income. Gross taxable income from my source is $4,479. >>25641490 Yikes, not an argument.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:34:27 GMT No. 25641609
>>25641600 https://www.ing.de/wissen/einkommensreichtum/ Well i don't know what to tell you. At 3700 after tax you are top 10%. Do with that information what you want.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:56:08 GMT No. 25641723 >>25641726
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in the end i'm such a racial purist that i want a system that brings niggers here so that i can give all my taxes to somalis and other shitskins instead of a system where my extended, racially pure family provides for me in an exceptional case
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:56:41 GMT No. 25641726 >>25641744
>>25641723 You are still butthurt?
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:58:44 GMT No. 25641744 >>25641758
>>25641726 Why do you say that? As I said I don't care that much, you are the one assblasted with some banter it just makes no sense that you want a system that benefits shitskins 99% of the time and normal people 1% of the time instead of a system that wouldn't have them to begin with and would only provide for your extended family at most in rare exceptions, normally only your close relatives
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 04:01:33 GMT No. 25641758 >>25641759
>>25641744 > i actually don't care > writes textwall justifying himself Yep, still seething.
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 04:01:50 GMT No. 25641759 >>25641761
>>25641758 it's literally one line
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 04:02:24 GMT No. 25641761 >>25641762
>>25641759 Butthurt!
Bernd Sat, 15 Mar 2025 04:02:46 GMT No. 25641762
>>25641761 lol ok buddy
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I need to feed those men of strange shaped heads :Ooo!
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