https://www.euronews.com/2025/03/13/us-officials-travel-to-moscow-as-putin-visits-troops-in-kursk

>>25628129 Who is the crab?

It's Joever

>>25628163 (((anonymous))) branded nafo bots from twitter

All those fishes with crabs were already losing on 2nd frame.

>>25628131 I think Poland and hungary deserve a chunk too

Like typical feminist women, Europe imagines herself the victim in every scenario and imagines the man as the villain. Bitches be crazy.

>>25628321 at same time feminists (green party of germany) voted against increasing military funding in germany few days ago.

>>25628331 what would increasing military funding in germany do for ukraine?

>>25628337 It was because USA is quitting nato.

>>25628342 >things that never happened

>>25628345 it will

>>25628129 Ватное творчество душевнобольных.

>>25628331 Are you telling me they went out of US's control?

>>25628345 >>25628353 There's not much of a chance of us leaving. It would require a supermajority in the senate. We're nowhere close to that.

>>25628360 green party prevented to reindustrialize german military sector. I don't know what kind of shizophrenia level you are on to.

>>25628353 europoor schizo dream

>>25628129 >people posing as "anonymous" and "le edgy hackers against dictators" are cancer I can agree to that.

>>25628163 me inventing poccnr and ziggers

>>25628366 > It would require a supermajority in the senate that's one aspect... or how about every republican and democrat of any importance supports remaining in NATO. the only controversy is europoors not supporting NATO by spending 2% of GDP on military.

>>25628367 I'm RAND documents tier.

>>25628331 honestly start killing them in the street (aside from annalener, she can be my sex slave)

>>25628384 >that's one aspect Yes, the only relevant one. That its not something within the presidential power to do is what I was getting at. >or how about every republican and democrat of any importance supports remaining in NATO. They are all of the same importance given their votes all count as one vote. That's also basically what I said, it requires a supermajority vote. That means two-thirds of congress in this case have to vote for it. >the only controversy is europoors not supporting NATO by spending 2% of GDP on military. That and the loudest NATO dogs barking trying to insist on getting Ukraine in as a part of any peace deal.

>>25628425 2% is meaningless without combat readiness. France have 10 times more capable army (minus nukes) compared to germany yet it doesn't reflect in military spending.

>>25628384 >europoors not supporting NATO by spending 2% of GDP on military. Most countries already do and they will increase.

>>25628444 Based cuckold vassals!

>>25628442 They should be spending more since they are so poor. If you're going to live like bums, you need to contribute a bigger percentage. Also Europe should get a real job. And a haircut. Hippies.

>>25628467 Listen, I am all for rearming France and Europe but all this conservatard narrative about Europeans spending little also satisfy the USA. They wouldn't like Europe to be that strong.

>>25628367 They didn't vote yet and they wanted more weapons the most the past three years. They were blocked by those that now need them for their shopping spree.

>>25628478 Fance has always been our friend and we have never complained about stronk France. The only real complaint I have is with Germany.

>>25628487 Germany has been denazified for real, it's not a meme like in a certain area of Europe. It's not a surprise if the US are going to pull troops out of Germany to be redeployed in Hungary, not that they are nazis but they are the weak link of the EU/NATO.

>>25628507 >germany has been denazified You see denazified, I see their efforts simply going into a different set of cultlike behaviors that can inspire just as much violent fervor. Germans gonna German. Its nothing to do with nazis just like WWI was nothing to do with nazis. Germans chimp out from time to time. That's just how it is.

>>25628478 You just need to scrap all those socdem prestige projects like smart cities in Africa, then you have enough money for rearming. Curiously, no government even thinks about this.

Gamers rise up energy

>>25628553 GANGWEED

>>25628550 Also remove most of immigrants.

>>25628444 >light blue is spendign >dark blue is pledged

>>25628669 Wrong again. https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2024/6/pdf/240617-def-exp-2024-en.pdf

>>25628359 >>25628362 Вы че ебанутые, учите мемы, батхерты. Это уже классика нахуй.

>>25628703 >Figures for 2023 and 2024 are estimates. >The cut-off date for information used in this report was 12 June 2024 so it's a pledge. it's not money recorded as having been spent. or even estimated as having been spent. it's money that these countries say they estimate they will have spent in 2024. great EU, patting themselves on the back for something that maybe happened, but only started in 2024 when trump was telling you retards to spend 2% in 2016.

>>25630791 china isn't your ally

>>25630945 Its from 22-23

>>25630961 Why you spamming this shit everywhere?

>>25628366 > It would require a supermajority in the senate. We're nowhere close to that. We'll see after midterms next year.

>>25630974 cuz its funny

>>25631034 Its cringe already you overdid it

The pledge was to all being at their amount by 2025. Getting close, but not there yet. The bigger question is what is being done with the money? Are they actually spending it on defensive activities?

>>25631051 who cares. spending on their own defense should have been done more than a decade ago. spending on ukraine should be now but they aren't willing to do that.

>>25630932 >so it's a pledge. it's not money recorded as having been spent. or even estimated as having been spent. it's money that these countries say they estimate they will have spent in 2024. Feel free to post others sources with the real spending then. Can't talk for others countries but France has been spending about 2% for 25 years already. We didn't came from 1.5 to 2 in few years because of the fear of Trump. >but only started in 2024 when trump was telling you retards to spend 2% in 2016. Report is from 12 June 2024, Trump wasn't elected yet and his election wasn't assured.

>>25631320 mec, France has been the worst NATO member ever founding member then bailing out then some reluctant shit only Sarkozy made you finally get back to your senses

>>25631351 >worst NATO member ever Frons wants to call the shots, simple as

>>25631351 This meme needs to die. France never left NATO, only its integrated military command. De Gaulle wanted to maintain French autonomy, and without his policy, there would be no French nuclear deterrent and no French military industry. I also assume that Sarkozy wanted to rejoin the integrated military command to secure assistance for the war in Libya, which happened only two years later.

>>25631386 >>25631430 >France remains the only NATO member outside the Nuclear Planning Group and unlike the United States and the United Kingdom, will not commit its nuclear-armed submarines to the alliance they continue acting edgelordy to this day not committing nuclear subs, not paying the 2% target for years, not participating in Iraq, inventing some bullshit about an EU army seriously, France got to stop this fucking around

>>25631447 reminder without immense pressure they would have given mistral to russia. and without AUKUS they would still be scamming australians and providing no subs.

>>25630961 Wie dont speak slave here subhuman

>>25631447 >not committing nuclear subs Memed again. During the cold war if Western Germany or Benelux would have been attacked by the USSR, Charles De Gaulle clearly stated France would use nuclear weapons. Recently Macron proposed the French nuclear deterrence for Europe. >not participating in Iraq France and Germany had more direct economic interests than the US in Iraq. >inventing some bullshit about an EU army Considering the current political trend in the US, it would be stupid to go all-in on NATO, especially considering the future of the US demographic. >>25631495 >reminder without immense pressure they would have given mistral to russia Nothing would have been given, it was a purchase. The invasion of Ukraine in 2014 halted it. >without AUKUS they would still be scamming australians and providing no subs. I already replied to you about it in another thread but I guess you didn't read: https://www.rfi.fr/en/international/20241214-former-admiral-urges-australia-go-back-on-aukus-deal-buy-french-subs <According retired Australian navy admiral Peter Briggs, the Aukus submarine plan is flawed, and the only chance Australia has to sustain its submarine fleet is to buy French vessels after all." <"The reality is that the US is unable to build enough submarines," Briggs told RFI.

BaZed.

>>25630968 You were already their vassal back then.

>>25631823 >France and Germany had more direct economic interests than the US in Iraq. delusional

>>25631447 >not participating in Iraq, inventing some bullshit about an EU army History proved us right. Suck it, Angklo cock suckers.

>>25630945 >China will dilate us it surely will