Just use old stuff you already paid for

>>25618675 >Since the USA has become evil and isolationist+ But USA is biggest ally of you again since today. Didn't you get the memo?

The American fears the swine boycott

>>25618691 >>25618692 Can we have a serious thread at least once? How do we live without American technologies? I really had to know.

Buy Elbrus

Can't you get a Samsung S25 with DeX?

riscv

We regime change for less than this

>>25618723 Hmm. It's too expensive and doesn't cover server usage, but thanks, I will consider it. https://rozetka.com.ua/ua/477314029/p477314029/ Is Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite free enough from USA influence? Qualcomm is an American company...

>>25618699 We're just at the beginning. As time goes on with orange man and space man at the wheel of the USA more and more good European alternatives will show up.

amerimutts hate huawei the most they make phones and laptops

>>25618743 >huawei It didn't leave Russia, and I don't think that falling for chink shit is smart. I would like to have more European(or Korean or Japanese) alternative

>>25618730 >We regime change for less than this What? When was the last time the USA changed its regime?

>>25618723 https://milkv.io/pioneer Is there any option without American components?

>>25618675 Some chinese products are quite good actually like those foldable phones. And the price is super cheap

It's all made in china so you can relax my butthurt friend

>>25618836 The EU has been actively working to strengthen its semiconductor industry, particularly through initiatives like the European Chips Act, which aims to boost domestic production and reduce reliance on foreign suppliers. Here are some key examples and details based on available information: Infineon Technologies (Germany) Infineon, a major German semiconductor manufacturer, operates production facilities in the EU. Its largest frontend site is in Dresden, Germany, where it produces chips, particularly for automotive and IoT applications. Infineon is also part of a joint venture with TSMC, Bosch, and NXP to build a new advanced semiconductor fabrication plant (fab) in Dresden, known as the European Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (ESMC). This facility, expected to start production by the end of 2027, will focus on 28-12 nm chips for automotive and industrial sectors. STMicroelectronics (France and Italy) STMicroelectronics, a leading European chipmaker headquartered in Geneva (Switzerland, not EU, but with significant EU operations), has manufacturing sites in the EU, including Crolles, France, and Agrate Brianza, Italy. These facilities produce a range of chips, including those for 5G, AI, and automotive applications. Intel (Ireland) Intel, a U.S.-based company, operates Fab 24 in Leixlip, Ireland, within the EU. This 300 mm wafer fab produces advanced semiconductors and has been a key part of Intel’s European manufacturing presence for over 30 years. Intel is also investing in new facilities in Germany (Magdeburg), with plans for two fabs expected to be operational by 2027 or 2028, further expanding EU chip production. GlobalFoundries (Germany) GlobalFoundries, headquartered in the U.S., runs Fab 1 in Dresden, Germany. This facility produces chips using a 12 nm process and is one of the most significant semiconductor hubs in Europe, serving various industries. TSMC’s Planned Facility (Germany) Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC), the world’s leading chip foundry, is collaborating with Infineon, Bosch, and NXP to establish the ESMC fab in Dresden, Germany. Construction is set to begin in late 2024, with production targeting automotive and industrial needs using advanced CMOS technologies. NXP Semiconductors (Netherlands) NXP, based in Eindhoven, Netherlands, has manufacturing capabilities in the EU. While it outsources some production, it maintains facilities for specific chip production and is involved in the Dresden ESMC project. The EU’s semiconductor industry has historically lagged behind Asia and the U.S. in cutting-edge chip production (e.g., below 7 nm nodes), but it excels in specialized areas like automotive and industrial chips. The European Chips Act, effective as of September 2023, is mobilizing over €43 billion in public and private investments to double the EU’s global semiconductor market share to 20% by 2030. This has spurred projects like those mentioned above, alongside efforts in Finland (e.g., Picosun’s R&D for sustainable chip manufacturing) and other countries. So, yes, there are operational factories producing electronic chips in the EU, with more advanced facilities in the pipeline to enhance the region’s technological sovereignty.

>>25618849 Why would u care anyway? Its like being a vegan and changing fuck all by not eating meat. Just choose the best value products regardless where they come from

I need to build a list of ethical software that exclude American and Russian(maybe BRICS as well) authors. >>25618862 https://dou.ua/lenta/articles/ukraine-chip-factory-is-real/ Ukraine will buy old equipment to produce 100-180 nanometers process chips. I need to be prepared to that.

>>25618887 ok but USA is literally the only reason your soldiers are wearing actual military equipment instead of vatnicks and ushankas on the battlefield let alone the massive financial aid they provide. You're not being thankful sir

Just buy some chink ARM laptop, problems weren't

Cockholes being cockholes i guess... Trying to bite the hand that feeds them... nothing new

>>25618929 ARM and Qualcomm are American companies.

>>25618945 ARM is originally British and now Jap owned. You can get ARM laptops without Qualcomm components.

>>25619001 >You can get ARM laptops without Qualcomm components. Grok says there are not such devices exist except Macbook M* series. Can you post model of such device, so I can search if it possible to buy it in Ukraine?

>>25619244 Do you have to rely on some retarded AI that doesn't even have up to date information on everything? https://pine64.org/devices/pinebook_pro/

>>25619258 >https://pine64.org/devices/pinebook_pro/ I had one several years ago. It was slow even then. I will not buy a new laptop for while and just wait for a new options from EU companies.

Buttblasted >>25619244 Why area you using an American AI

>>25619341 >Why area you using an American AI I don't pay them, so I am just a leecher hehe

>>25618933 You guys were right all along.

Where Elbrus CPU S-P-A-C-E laptop ?

Just buy secondhand you stupid idiot.

>>25619357 Lots of that going around in Ukraine atm

I dont understand where is the ARM motherboards for desktops ? they should have half the market by now a 200$ phone would take care of all internet needs remove battery and screen thats 100$

>>25619459 They shouldn't because all real software is designed for x86 platform. >a 200$ phone would take care of all internet needs remove battery and screen thats 100$ Phoneniggers can just use their phone, why would they want a desktop.

>>25619498 you might want m2 and sata ports a big screen and muman keyboard mouse Sure you can get a hub and do most of this above but thats nigger tier

>>25619515 *human

>>25619515 >you might want m2 and sata ports What for? Normies all use cloud storage and memory cards anyway. >big screen and muman keyboard mouse

>>25618675 You don't need electronics, you'll die in a trench soon to defend your country.

>>25619459 The Mac Mini is an ARM desktop, and it's fantastic. It can run big LLMs at reasonable speeds while using less than 50 watts. Or other hard workloads. >>25619498 Pretty much every important software now ships with ARM support.

>>25619544 yea i sure want to spend half a minute loading thumbnails on a 4 tb directory from le cloud

usa is currently trying to save the existence of your country. biden was hoping for his agreement to go ahead and zelenskyy to accept the helo ride out. EU offered nothing. right this moment EU is screaching and whaling about offering future spending on their own military (this has nothing to do with trump demand that they meet minimum 2% gdp spend) and giving nothing to ukraine. if you gave minerals maybe USA would have some interest, otherwise enjoy EU protecting themselves and denying you USA weapons by buying the entire supply for the next 12 years.

>>25619856 From that i seen the geniuses in EU plant to build more tanks and APCs that can be deleted by a drone for a few 100 bucks For (the old price) of a leopard you get 60 000 kill drones Nobody is moving a finger to mass produce cheap drones

Everything one ends up paying a tax to the USA. Ukraine wouldn't be a country today without President Biden. You should thank us.