what is his fucking problem? did he buy 30% of Rheinmetall or what?

>>25603419 He is tired of germans scamming him with sick leaves and stealing cofee cups from his factory.

For musk there is no such thing as good strategical diplomatic investment. Isolationisnt moment

he's not even American he's a nigger from Africa

Whats the gameplan here? Will america shrink their military budget once they leave nato?

Does the Trump administration want any allies at all?

>>25603433 tht is one of the steps, yes

>>25603429 >>25603431 >>25603433 >>25603435 Its time you guys go out and apply for a job.

>>25603435 Trump administration just does what putler tells them to do.

>>25603437 You are brown.

>>25603435 Russia best ally! we should have kept them

>>25603433 that's a pretty good point, are they advocating military shrinkage?

Im pretty sure trump just did bluff, trying to pressure europe into actually paying for americas protection, instead of just spending 2% of their gdp on defense, to also pay america for their defense. But instead it all backfired, and europe now lost trust in america and is building their own alliances. So the last few decades america invested into having a stronghold in europe thru nato was for nothing. But trump won't accept a no, so he will keep trying with his art of the deal stick. Make outlandish claims, pressure your business partner, and then offer them a deal.

>>25603446 Without any allies left they can't really afford to shrink their military budget.

We will looks after Europe the old hag

r*ssians be like: NATO super dangerous! it has encircled r*ssia with its bases which is very very dangerous, but also NATO is weak, none of the countries would fight for other countries, the soldiers are sissies who cry when they cut their finger and the weapons dont actually work also r*ssians be like: europe is occupied by USA and propped by USA to antagonize r*ssia, but also USA is an ally of r*ssia against evil europe who wants to destroy r*ssia how these niggers live with contradicting thoughts in their brains?

Trump is trying to play chess but making checkers moves. He's moving like it's a real estate negotiation and co-opting poker tactics, but it's one thing when you're strong arming some local authority with legal loopholes and regulatory norms to watch over you, and quite another when you try to strongarm countries into doing your bidding with no higher authority over any of you

>>25603466 how about this one: Russia was like: NATO in the borders of 1997 or we war you Russia is like: NATO in the borders of 1949 is fine, too.

>>25603458 >and is building their own alliances With China?

>>25603458 its embarrassing you cdu tv addicts have been repeating this mythical military build up since 2014. Your economy and EU has only shrank since then

>>25603466 They literally are mentally ill. Thats why they are the jews strongest soldiers.

>>25603458 >But instead it all backfired, and europe now lost trust in america and is building their own alliances. So the last few decades america invested into having a stronghold in europe thru nato was for nothing. wtf are you even talking about? EU is not able to make up for the loss of USA.

>>25603477 Damn our economy shrank. Even germany alone has a bigger gdp than entire russia. You should stop repeating retardet talking points from slavs 1:1.

>>25603466 Ursula said in 2022 russians are shitty warriors who take out chips from washing machines. Now Ursula says she needs at least 5 years to prepare defense from Russia. >how these niggers live with contradicting thoughts in their brains?

>>25603482 >wtf are you even talking about? EU is not able to make up for the loss of USA. This is not some video game where you need X stats to make up for america. Europe already is more than enough to keep russia away. They can't even invade a little slavic shithole. All this has done is lowering trust in america and their influence in europe. No country can afford it economically to attack europe/a nato country. Its something that will never happen.

>>25603484 whats germany military industry and army rank in europe? behind russia, ukraine, poland, UK, turkey, france

Euros ITT are delusional, as always.

>>25603508 Yes, and germany is not alone. I know you are a little bit schizophrenic, but russia will not attack europe. You can dream about your power fantasies all night if you want.

>>25603508 > behind ukraine Huh?

Love the seething yurocucks, damn it feels great to win

>>25603526 What have you won?

I wish for that total geopolitically independence of Europa without kike wallstreet sharts, chimpout russoids and soros shitskins

>>25603529 We're winning and we ain't never gonna stop winning. Get your own army oh wait you have a population of trannies and terrorists

>>25603526 Americans winning: Paying more for everything Being russias bitch 6 trillion to israel

>>25603523 what are you smoking, israel and ukraine have real armies that fight real wars. germany makes up imaginary aid shipments to inflate their contribution

>>25603538 MIGA!!!

>>25603466 >NATO (USA) == strong >NATO (EU) == weak >EU == evil and wants to destroy Russia >EU is still occupied by USA >Trump's USA less hostile to Russia i see no contradictions here

>>25603550 Do you think i made this list up just now?

>>25603514 i don't support donald but russia would sent soldiers without insigna into the baltics without nato

>>25603550 Germany alone has a higher GDP than russia. Russia would never ever dare attacking european nato countries because it knows it would be absolutely destroyed. You live in meme fantasy land, and have no idea how fast industrial superpowers can mobilize.

>>25603558 no ofc not you scrolled google for something to support the opinion you had in advance

>>25603433 America == Russia America will leave NATO, then lift all the sanctions on Russia, then provide monetary help to Russia, and then finally military equipment and personnel to Russia. This war was orchestrated by the United States and Russia to take the territories and resources of Ukraine. America will also arm Argentina, just look at their puppet, Milei. They'll arm Argentina to make it invade the Falklands, thus provoking the UK to send troops there. When the UK bites the bait, America will invade Canada and Greenland at the same time, and then Russia will invade the Baltics and Poland. After taking over Canada and Greenland, Americans will have a clear path to invade Europe. Europeans will once again have to fight on two fronts: against the USA in the Atlantic and against Russia in the East. It won't even be considered a world war, since Europe will be finished in two weeks. Then the Americans will shift their focus to China. They will prevent Chinese ships from passing through the Panama Canal, the Suez Canal, the Bering Strait and the Kennedy channel in order to weaken the Chinese economy. WW3 will be the good guys (China, Brazil, Pakistan, Iran, Venezuela and North Korea) vs the bad guys (USA, Russia, Israel, Argentina, India and South Korea)

elong is so based

>>25603572 This is great and all, and I'm neither for nor against it, but how is this going to purge the world of niggers?

>>25603435 Atomic bombs are your best allies. But it will be hard to extort resssources without the global American empire - but that's not so much of a problem, just deport all niggers and immigrants. And maybe the US wont care about the past anymore and give us their nukes so we can be left alone finally. I have a dream.

>>25603589 It won't

>>25603567 1. germany is not an 'industrial super power' 2. the crimeran war started in 2014 and germany's armament industry is still weak and unable of supporting a war at this moment 3. Russia wouldn't attack nato because of america, what kind of significant support to you think germany would give to estonia if russia invaded and there was no US

>>25603592 Damn.

>>25603596 >1. germany is not an 'industrial super power' Prussia just need to secede and reunite with Russia then do their job of keeping saxons away from power, only putting Russians, Prussians, Belorussians or Malorussians in political power we also need a Prussian aristocrat, with no history of nazi collaboration in family, to take a position of the inheritable head of the constitutional court chair

>>25603596 >Russia wouldn't attack nato because of america and what would america do exactly? your aircarriers sink minutes after entering 5000 km proximity of an armed hypersonic weapon launch platform we can turn off all your sputniks too remember musk turned off sputniks, when porks tried to storm Kream? it's impossible that he would be informed on the matter of the operation to turn them off we turned his sputs off (burned several of them with Peresvet) and demanded him to turn them off for 2 days, if he wants to keep any on the orbit you have 35 millions of army trained people? you can't possibly dream to enlist mentally enabled white people in your faggot army either — not to fight Russians they'd more likely choose to enlist in the Russian army, or Russian occupational force police you'd only have retarded obese evangelical karens left, bleating about how they should protect israel

>>25603414 They've always hates us anyway. We may as well exit NATO, and quit sending money.

wow mike lee is so baced. am i right, fellow miga bros?

I would rather we stopped free gibs to Israel Gibs to Europe is like helping your gramps in a home, kind of a decent thing to do.

>>25603435 >Does the Trump administration want any allies at all? i can't believe berns really have to ask such a question.

I want the end of NATO just for the sake of seeing the naive Poles and Brits apologize to us.

>>25603882 I don't think the trend of apologising to brown people will live past a NATO collapse

>>25603731 so bitter, Russia stalemated in ukraine and US took down Iraq in weeks. any way judging by how you draft dodged you also wouldn't want to attack NATO because of america

>>25603414 Did burgers truly turn this retarded? I live near a US base and many people here have been crying Ami go home for decades. You know why they didn't? Because they simply occupy the country without calling it occupation. Be my guest giving up your vasals kek. For the longest time I was cool with it, because I'm half burger and thought it's great having total strangers willing to die for you if they had to. But I realized the US does absolutely nothing if it's not for their own benefit and throw you under the bus for the slightest inconvenience.

>>25604050 While I disagree with how Musk et al are doing it, I think we shouldn't have American troops on foreign soil either. I think the current regime are stupid for publicly making us look like assholes when all we had to do is louldy reenforce that we would protect our allies in case of invasion while quietly removing assets from the region. But your statement too annoys me. >Ami go home! <ok >You bastards! In that case we cannot win. They are leaving in the worst possible way, but you too are exercising some mental gymnastics.

The only time ever NATO Article 5 was activated was when the sharts were attacked on 9/11

But shitskins won't.

>>25604072 EU support looked similar to their support for ukraine

>Exit NATO sure thing. but don't call us when you start you dick measuring contest with china.

really weird times when bild is against buying amerijets

>>25604152 And Olaf is for loosening the debt limit to spend more on defence.

Drumpf needs a 2/3rds majority in Congress to cancel treaties, which he doesn't have. Until then, this is all more bullshit from the expert bullshitters in the Trump administration.

>>25604152 Imagine your 4d chess being that no european country will ever trust buying american weapons ever again.

>>25604177 israel will always trust them. they don't need anybody else.

>>25604180 Israel doesn't buys anything, they just get gifts.

>>25604177 I've said it before and I'll say it again: orange man is the best thing that could have happened to Europe.

>>25604183 it's 4d chess, bro.

>>25604167 Maybe he should just try firing the Democrats in Congress.

>>25604184 germany is gonna save ukraine?

NEWSFLASH: EU shocked their offer for paying for F35's with smegma rejected. That was the only thing they could be proud of.

I want that to happen but holy shit he's retarded

>>25604194 Pay up Germany.

>>25604200 America will be a shithole like russia in 10 years. Its already starting. Sad

>>25604194 We'll see if that happens. In the meantime, Europe will grow closer than ever, start seriously paying for its own defence, and trade with industrial powerhouse China will increase and lessen with you. Please make more tariffs.

>>25604202 Germany already sucks.

>>25604194 your ass will definitely have to fight in the middle east to save israel

>>25604212 These people literally failed for zion don. He can sell entire america out to his billionaire buddies and send 20 trillion to israel, and trump just has to say "WE WINNING! We never won so much" and this nigger goy catle will just eat it up. I mean he literally can rug pull his own supporters with crypto scams, and they just ignore it. He can ramp up payments to israel 100%, and they don't even question it. There is no saving these people.

>>25604211 American companies gonna have to actually compete again instead of winning everything through corruption.

>>25604232 Pax Americana is coming to and end

>>25604224 Germany is heaven on earth compared to america. Enjoy having your yearly holidays reduced from 2 weeks to 1 week, and your buying power be cut in half. Still no healthcare, and now also abolished social security.

>>25604242 >American companies gonna have to actually compete again instead of winning everything through corruption. Wow amazing. Truly 4d chess by trump. He just cares that deeply about fair competition on the global scale. He should take even more advantages away from america.

>>25604249 But all that's irrelevant because reasons.

>>25604249 Different ball, but to be fair you enjoy a lot of that because you haven't had to concern yourself with national defense for the last 80 years.

>>25604242 New cope unlocked

>>25604242 it will take your companies decades to get rid of your dei nigger damage

>>25604275 Yeah, im sure 2 more weeks and we will have no healthcare anymore. For the past 10 years bernd is predicting germany is gonna collapse. You realize germany is one of the countries that will benifit the most from america losing their dominance in europe? Who do you think other european countries are gonna buy arms from?

>>25604242 >corruption isn't competition lmao, try winning any government contract on the basis of merit. then try winning on the presumption that the people awarding the contract are willing to sell out their cunt for personal financial gain. guess which method always has and always will take you further. if you're not cheating you're not trying. bribery is just another form of merit you clueless retard.

>>25604296 I hate to be the one to tell you, but this military industrial complex isn't a for-profit venture for the nation, just for certain individuals. You'll have to spend more than you ever make defending yourself. Its a huge money sink. You'll find out soon enough.

He fucked up big time. He should have used the leverage america has to pressure countries individually. Most would cave. But instead he tries his art of the deal bullshit on entire europe and all his other allies at once. What is he thinking?

>>25604310 Any day now.

>>25604317 This is probably the most valid criticism by ans European so far.

>>25604310 Bernd, everybody is tired of these future predictions of armchair experts arleady. I remember here arguing with bernds that said soon entire german economy collapses without russian gas. At the same time any neet on welfare in germany still has better living standards than working class people in america. By the time germany "collapses" most people here will be already dead. This is not something that happens over the next few years. It takes decades, and nobody can predict the economy. Most people here are over 30 already. Another 30-40 years and most of us are dead.

>>25604298 Your question depends on the government in question, clearly Trump's government is a departure from corrupt personal gain.

>>25604340 what prediction? The fuck are you talking about? I was responding to someone who said Germany will be the new weapons dealer to Europe. I said "weapons dealing is a money sink" and said if you become said new USA you'll find out that it is indeed a money sink. I feel like I'm talking to bots. I literally made no prediction.

Trump’s a retarded businessman playing checkers while Putin’s dangling carrots and schooling him in info warfare. He’s fucking over US interests, tanking its rep, and emboldening Russia against NATO’s Euro flank—all while trying to cut Europe out and chase flashy wins. No shekels spared for Netanyahu tho.

how long until trump joins brics?

>>25604349 > I said "weapons dealing is a money sink" Yeah, countries just do it for fun.

>>25604281 Ironic. Imagine how hard the number would be going down if Trump's ziohandlers weren't rigging the market to stay afloat.

>>25604348 >clearly Trump's government is a departure from corrupt personal gain.

>>25604363 Shh, don't tell him Trump and his entourage are billionaires who don't care about 99% of the USA

>>25604348 >clearly Trump's government is a departure from corrupt personal gain. Its amazing how the cuckservative brain works. You can have a guy that literally rugpulls his own supporters with a cryptoscam, and they will write shit like this. Im sure the deal with elon musk for cybertrucks is because america actually needs them, its in the best interest for the people. 0 corruption to see here. Its so insane, its hard to believe its not bait but people actually think like this.

>>25604367 >rich people bad It was peasant-tier and it was on the Germany

>>25604371 You truly are one of americas storngest goym

>>25604357 No, they do it to offset the costs to the nation. Damn, I think I need to quit talking to you people.

>>25604371 But that's not even close to what I said

>>25604317 >What is he thinking? Maybe the bullet really did damage (psychological), and not just an ear nick

>>25604371 Wealth doesn’t mean shit when it’s wielded by a self-obsessed faggot like Trump who’d rather jerk off to his own reflection than give a fuck about the 99%. His billionaire posse isn’t some noble exception—they’re just as grimy as any corrupt elite, only dumber and louder. Keep slurping that MAGA Kool-Aid, you delusional cuck, while they laugh all the way to the bank.

>>25604392 DUDE BILLIONAIRES BAD BECAUSE..uh.. THEY ARE BILLIONAIRES! Meanwhile in reality, America is WINNING and your eurosissy ass CANNOT COPE

>>25604396 > AMERICA IS WINNING! What exactly are you winning. Stock market down, gorcery prices up, funding to israel increased. You literally are nigger cattle. You kike cocksuckers are pathetic.

>>25604404 cope levels: laughable

>>25604410 >COPE LEVELS: LAUGHABLE ftfy

>>25604409 Woah woah woah not so fast there buddy, first your spent like 5 posts in this thread complaining about Le billionaires and Le rich people, but now you're presenting rich people losing some stock market value as a bad thing? Come on man gotta make up your mind

>>25604419 Who says america losing is a bad thing? I find it good. But how exactly is that you winning? Explain it to me? And how is trump not corrupt? He literally rugpulls his own supporters with crypto. He literally increased spending to israel. Why you ignore all that? How are you winning? What did you win?

The incels "no pussy no work" are fucked up now

>>25604419 There's not only one Germanball here, dumdum. I'm the one who originally pointed out that Trump doesn't give a shit about you, not the Germanball you just replied to.

>>25604419 Oh, look, the MAGA tard’s back with his “winning” bullshit—like a broken record stuck on stupid. Stock market’s tanking, your grocery bill’s through the roof, and your tax dollars are still getting shoveled to Israel while you cheer like a good little goy. Billionaires losing a few bucks doesn’t mean jack when they’re still screwing you sideways, genius. The point’s not their losses—it’s your dumb ass celebrating while they milk you dry. Pick a lane, you inconsistent cuck, or keep choking on that kike boot. Eurosissy’s still laughing at your “victory,” cattle boy.

>>25604454 >your grocery bill’s through the roof, Nope, nothing ever happens

So amazing that we finally break free from the influence of america.

>>25604491 The intelligence services of the UK and Norway are very suspicious of the USA now.

>>25604502 Part of trumps 4d chess. Trust the plan

>>25604212 independent EU is going to ignore wars in europe?

Germs should start getting rent from the mutt bases

>>25603433 It's a lot cheaper to be a great power than it is to be a superpower. So yes. It's probably unironically that.

>>25603458 > Im pretty sure trump just did bluff Trump is the most straightforward president in a long time. He means what he says. However sometimes he means a different thing a week later. I do wonder what the strategic benefit of pissing away NATO is. It means abandoning all ambitions in Europe pretty much. If that was the plan then where's the upside?

>>25603596 >1. germany is not an 'industrial super power' And you are? Your industry is in worse state than ours.

>>25604760 The plan is to cause WW3 and destroy Amalek once and for all.

>>25604275 Bundeswehr was actually reasonably sized during cold war times. Point taken for everything after that though.