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Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:16:03 GMT No. 25589411 [Kohl] [Report thread]
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Should I install arch on my work-thinkpad?
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Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:18:09 GMT No. 25589430
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Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:18:48 GMT No. 25589433 >>25589455
I would need to run a Wincuck VM for some applications that won't work on Troonix. Is it still the better way to go than Wincucks 11?
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:19:00 GMT No. 25589435 >>25589487
>>25589411 what do you do for work? If you have a lot of calls, it can be a problem.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:21:53 GMT No. 25589455 >>25589487
>>25589433 You can make a dual boot. Install jewindows then arch linux. Make sure to leave some space on disk for arch or not, there's a tool in windows you could use to reduce your windows partion size and later install arch
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:23:53 GMT No. 25589468
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the last two partitions are linux so windows doesn't recognize I use arch btw and I kept my w10
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:25:31 GMT No. 25589487 >>25589618
>>25589435 I do mostly windows support, printers, terminal servers and such. Yes I do have a lot of calls. >>25589455 >You can make a dual boot. <I would need to run a Wincuck VM for some applications that won't work on Troonix. Useless.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:27:25 GMT No. 25589498 >>25589515
Are you allowed to install an OS on your work computer? This is highly verboten on the USA for most companies that aren't a joge. Especially ones with security protocols that have to meet standards for audits.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:30:23 GMT No. 25589515 >>25589533
>>25589498 >Are you allowed to install an OS on your work computer? Yes. I can do whatever the fuck I want with it. >This is highly verboten on the USA for most companies that aren't a joge. Here too but I'm based technician with full access to basically everything and freedom in my work.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:32:18 GMT No. 25589533 >>25589540
>>25589515 If you cause your company to fail a security audit because they don't have control of some rogue linux box on their intranet, would you not be fired?
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:32:54 GMT No. 25589540 >>25589704
>>25589533 That ThinkPad is not in the domain.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:33:39 GMT No. 25589549 >>25589616
You should not install Arch anywhere no matter what, dogshit distro.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:33:51 GMT No. 25589553 SÄGE! >>25589591
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Linux if for Neets with old computers that mainly uses it for multimedia and to browse the web. If you don't fit, then just get back to work, wageslave!
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:36:35 GMT No. 25589591
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>>25589553 >ook ook AAK
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:39:10 GMT No. 25589616 >>25589632
>>25589549 What's your personal preference? I would try a solid distro I haven't tried yet.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:39:29 GMT No. 25589618 >>25589649
>>25589487 >I do mostly windows support, printers, terminal servers and such. Yes I do have a lot of calls. So you have no business using Linux, use WSL to fuck around when you're bored and it will be enough.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:40:51 GMT No. 25589632
>>25589616 Gentoo if you want to take it seriously, Linux Mint if you don't care, Fedora if you're a redditor.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:42:18 GMT No. 25589649 >>25589688
>>25589618 It's not for fucking around. At home I do use arch and Windows 11 bothers me. So I'm thinking of switching OS on work device for convenience.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:46:05 GMT No. 25589674 SÄGE!
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Yes, it is! If you'd still need to emulate windows then you don't need arch.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:48:13 GMT No. 25589688 >>25589757
>>25589649 Yes you are fucking around. Arch is too broken to be used seriously.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:49:50 GMT No. 25589704 >>25589763
>>25589540 >not in domain What about asset tracking system? Is this an asset that's off the books? Also what is your company doing with an off-contract thinkpad? Lenovo repair contract would require official software. I smell fuckery here somewhere. Did you steal this thinkpad from work?
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:55:31 GMT No. 25589757 >>25589791
>>25589688 >Arch is too broken to be used seriously. <updates packages each and every day <more packages and newer updates than any other distro <better documented than even Ubuntu Sometimes a kernel doesn't work, then I use the second newest for a couple of days and it works again. What's broken?
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:56:33 GMT No. 25589763 >>25589770
>>25589704 Do you work in a fucking slave factory? I'm technician and need to have full control over my tools. My laptop being a tool.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:57:01 GMT No. 25589770 >>25589786
>>25589763 >Do you work in a fucking slave factory? Well, its an american company so you could make that argument.
Bernd Fri, 07 Mar 2025 23:59:51 GMT No. 25589786 >>25589794
>>25589770 Do you get paid when you're sick?
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:00:19 GMT No. 25589791 >>25589793
>>25589757 Everything related to AUR is extremely broken. Besides, Gentoo has binary packages officially since 2024, Arch is deprecated.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:00:43 GMT No. 25589793 >>25589800
>>25589791 I thought Gentoo makes you gay or turns you into a tranny or something. Also waste of time.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:00:51 GMT No. 25589794 >>25589830
>>25589786 One week of sick leave per year. Any more than that and I have to dip into vacation time or file for short term disability
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:01:39 GMT No. 25589800
>>25589793 Gentoo builds character while you build OS that you actually enjoy using because it only contains what you asked for, not less, not more.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:03:57 GMT No. 25589830 >>25589842 >>25589864
>>25589794 Holy fugg :DDDD I can be sick for six weeks with full payment and after that 70% for literally months up to years.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:05:22 GMT No. 25589842 >>25589847
>>25589830 that is why so many faggots live today in germany. live has to be hard so that faggots and losers die.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:05:59 GMT No. 25589847
>>25589842 Aren't you Russian?
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:08:28 GMT No. 25589864 >>25589871 >>25589878
>>25589830 I can't remember the percentage I would get for long term disability. There are federal laws in place that guarantee some percentage. Its kind of the same in that regard under FMLA rules. It also applies for months to years, but you have to be really fucked up. In the short term I really can't remember at all. The company offers one week, then short term disability and long term disability are government programs. You have to prove all kinds of things though to get short and long term benefits. Its really a hassle. Companies here also really love finding ways to fire people on FMLA. My company fired an african girl who had sickle cell anemia because she was always absent on FMLA. They found some other reason to do it of course, but you can expect it here if you're absent a lot.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:09:28 GMT No. 25589871
>>25589864 >companies on July 1st
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:10:56 GMT No. 25589878 >>25589892 >>25589930
>>25589864 So you have absolutely no security and no freedom in your work. Why don't you become a farmer?
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:11:07 GMT No. 25589881 >>25589890
Arch is old news, hipster fags are on NixOS now.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:12:15 GMT No. 25589890
>>25589881 Nix turns you schizophrenic. We have seen it on /b/.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:12:42 GMT No. 25589892 >>25589899
>>25589878 Farming in USA has been slow and lengthy process that's not even profitable ever since they banned fully automatic weapons, he has no choice.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:13:17 GMT No. 25589899 >>25589904
>>25589892 I mean farm his own land, grow his own crops.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:13:41 GMT No. 25589904 >>25589906
>>25589899 Americans plant crops by shooting seeds into the ground.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:14:39 GMT No. 25589906 >>25589913
>>25589904 based freedoms
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:15:24 GMT No. 25589913 >>25589918
>>25589906 Full auto is banned, they are literally going to be starving soon.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:15:47 GMT No. 25589918
>>25589913 You can shoot by hand
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:17:18 GMT No. 25589930 >>25589933
>>25589878 because I make a lot of mahneys Farming is not profitable at all and relies on government subsidies.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:17:51 GMT No. 25589933 >>25589938
>>25589930 I don't agree with your life choices.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:18:51 GMT No. 25589938 >>25589942
>>25589933 You don't have to, fren. I don't agree with your distro choices. Still we manage.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:19:19 GMT No. 25589942
>>25589938 Cheers to that, friend.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:19:53 GMT No. 25589946 >>25589969
install artix just to make it harder for yourself
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:23:41 GMT No. 25589969 >>25590073
>>25589946 I will install OpenSUSE instead. Got ans SUSE plush chameleon I stick my kots beard hair into. The ones they lose I mean.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:40:37 GMT No. 25590073 >>25590082
>>25589969 Why even ask then?
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:42:15 GMT No. 25590082 >>25590092 >>25590100 >>25590195
>>25590073 It was an idea that came to mind. What's your opinion on SUSE?
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:44:43 GMT No. 25590092 >>25590094
>>25590082 Don't have any, other than it's package manager is shit compared to portage, but that's all package managers.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:45:29 GMT No. 25590094 >>25590110
>>25590092 So you're dead-set on advising to install Gentoo?
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:46:46 GMT No. 25590100
>>25590082 They make weird decisions. I downloaded OpenSUSE to use as a kiosk for my grandfather with dementia because KDE has very nice lockdown tools for the UI and SUSE ships with KDE. I was doing something that I don't remember while working with it and realized that a lot of the files aren't in the traditional linux places. I looked in the SUSE documentation and they claimed the files should be in the traditional location. So I continued searching and found one forum post where a guy asked the same question and was answered by SUSE that they had made this change. The guy asked why the documentation hadn't been updated and they basically explained since it was in a patch note, this should be sufficient. The guy was like "wtf, why would you do this" and the explanation didn't come. I noticed they do this often. they make changes that are very breaking and don't update documentation. Red Hat does it too, but not as often I think.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 00:49:17 GMT No. 25590110
>>25590094 If you want to take using Linux seriously, yes. Once you figure it out, you will never have problems, unless you accept ~arch keyword which does literally make gentoo break as often as arch does.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 01:07:04 GMT No. 25590195
>>25590082 >What's your opinion on SUSE? Totally superfluous distro with no redeeming features. Anything positive it offers, other distros offer as well with much more ontop of it. It's one of those ancient distros which never was terribly good and stuck around for way too long for no good reason. I imagine the only people using it are people who installed it 20 years ago when it was somewhat OK and got stuck on it. These days there are amazing modern distros so choosing SUSE seems absurd.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 01:21:58 GMT No. 25590280 >>25590314
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Ok look, what is an OS? It's something that's supposed to make it easier for you to run software on your PC. It provides baseline functionality, which you extend by installing software ontop of it, right? Now linux has hundreds of distros and dozens of package managers, with multiple package formats, and even inside such a package format there's lots of differentiations. It's so annoying to package software for release under linux that Linus Torvalds, the creator of the Linux kernel himself, doesn't even maintain packages for the diving computer software he wrote himself for his diving hobby but is glad some distro maintainer does it for him. That's why package availability for most linux distros is quite shit. There are two notable exceptions. One is arch. Why? Anyone can shit out an arch package to AUR, it's not called Arch USER repository for shits and giggles, packages are literally made by randos. Package quality thus is ... all over the place. But at least they got a lot of packages. Now the other one is Nix. They simply made it easy and sane to create packages, and as a result nix has THE MOST packages BY FAR of any distro. Not only that, their packages are also the newest ones by far! While other distros take ages to create packages, software is available as a nix package very rapidly. So NixOS completely blows any other distro out of the water for software availability. It doesn't really have any huge downsides, it has a nice calamaris installer like any other distro, multiple desktops available, and it has more fancy features declarative central config for the entire system, so if you want to mess with stuff you can without worries, any change you make can be rolled back on reboot no problem to previous config. This makes nix so superior to other systems that I don't see how anyone could argue using anything but it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJVFXsNzYZQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwfKlX3rA6E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a67Sv4Mbxmc&list=PLko9chwSoP-15ZtZxu64k_CuTzXrFpxPE
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 01:28:06 GMT No. 25590314
>>25590280 >words words words Install Gentoo.
Bernd Sat, 08 Mar 2025 01:52:05 GMT No. 25590411
Yes. It's da best. Just don't forget to update it from time to time, or else.
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