Toyota will send a car up there next year to film a commercial

Of course we were there, it was just really expensive. Saturn V could land 41 tons on the moon, most missions today are cheap and <1 ton. Starship could do 150 tons for a reasonable price, so that's real progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVIMGjYpryc&t=5s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEsjn71ZJrI yeah they fake it Makes you wonder why and what else they fake

Alright, I'll make it very easy for you. Just tell me at which point you start to disagree. 1. Space is real. The Earth is a globe and the Moon is a rock that orbits it. 2. Rockets are real. If you build a large enough one, you can reach escape velocity and reach orbit. Many such rockets have been built and used and they launch to orbit about once a week. 3. Rockets can be crewed by putting capsules with life support systems in them, a rocket can separate an attached capsule on a certain trajectory as its own spacecraft. 4. A spacecraft that has reached orbit can reach the Moon and come back on a free return trajectory relatively easily. This has been done several times, with whole rockets and with only crewed capsules. Agree so far?

>>25585975 >the Moon is a rock that orbits it. Zero proof

>>25585981 You can track the Moon’s position yourself, mark where it rises and sets every night for a month. You’ll see it follows a predictable orbit around Earth, matching its lighting phases.

>>25585998 you are too low IQ for this thread please leave

>>25586012 I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you'll get better

We went to the moon to win the space race. 50+ years we're still waiting for 2nd place to cross the line.

>>25586042 Why wouldnt they do that again. Or send a rover recording that flag they put there?

Ofc no. When engineers have a good design (Saturn V if it was real should even be considered exceptional) serving it's purpose - they update it, not sack it in 5 years after spending tons of money and effort to spend more on another worse design. The ship they say was even better and didn't need even heat protection on the sides - such an amazing feat achieved. But somehow it just doesn't work anymore.

>>25586042 That's more of a condemnation than anything

question the moon landing is low iq question whether it was a manned mission or not is high iq

If it's real why don't they use the Hubble telescope to show the landing site?

>>25586057 you clearly have some hangups that are preventing you from accepting the flat earth

>>25586057 Fine, let's continue there. 5. A spacecraft can swing into a stable Moon orbit. From there, it can send down a probe or a lander to the surface. A lightweight probe can also travel to the Moon and land there on its own from Earth orbit. Both types of missions have been done by several nations and lately even private companies. I guess we agree on that. 6. A large enough lander can be a crewed capsule. The crew can leave it after landing to walk on the Moon's surface, as long as they have pressurized spacesuits. This has only been done 6 times so far, in the Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16 and 17 missions. So you're only disputing point 6, right? Why?

You could literary see the walls of the hangar it was shot in if you cranked the contrast on early internet photos hosted on NASA website

>>25585733 they didnt lose the technology the technology has become obsolete, everything from the machinery and techniques used to create those saturn rockets and the materials they are made from it would be prohibitively expensive to recreate, its not just a case of copying the blueprints, most of the machinery and tooling would have to be remade, engineers retrained in obsolete techniques over many years as most of those who made the originals are dead its far cheaper to start over with a complete new design with current materials, machinery and engineering

>>25585975 >>25586083 Females are real. Sex is real. A human can have sex. Does that mean bernds did it?

>>25586095 I don't know, I did.

>>25586095 Good point >>25586099 Ure so retarded no wonder ure a sex haver

>stem becomes infested with chinks, nigs, browns, pakis, jeets, troons, and women OMG WHY AREN'T WE AS COMPETENT AND TECHNICALLY CAPABLE AS BEFORE?!!

>>25586104 real

>>25586095 >Does that mean bernds did it?

>>25586110 So you claim all 6 landings are fake somehow, right? Why did they do that 6 times, wouldn't once have been enough? Did the Soviet Union know and just don't tell anybody? Did these Apollo missions actually start, and the astronauts were in Moon orbit, but just the landing was fake? Why not just go down there, what's so hard about landing the capsule?

>>25586133 soviet union got paid very well is not like the owned any media in the west anyway that would push their narrative

>>25586133 Even once would be enough to bring something back.

>>25586062 >flat earth classic every time someone's is claiming that the mission was unmanned, glowies release a domestic clown in attempt to distract people from the topic >>25586083 >A large enough lander can be a crewed capsule. The crew can leave it after landing to walk on the Moon's surface, as long as they have pressurized spacesuits. the possibility of something that is not based on easily verifiable evidence is not proof that it is actually possible. the moon landing was real because we can see the lander on the surface of the moon, this is the easily verifiable evidence us there the evidences that would proof lunar module wasn't unmanned

If they could put a man on the moon in the 70s why do they have to fake everything now? They just did a slightly better job faking back then

>>25586148 Lolwut? You're clearly too young to remember anything about the Cold War, that's the wildest shit I've heard in years. It's fun you'd choose the hardest question to answer, though. >>25586162 They did bring a lot of stones back, but it's not something you just gift to random people. >>25586166 Oh, using a conspiracy theory to justify another one, that's a nice approach to fool yourself.

>>25586201 >They did bring a lot of stones back, but it's not something you just gift to random people. Lol, nah, they got lost just like the tapes and tech.

Imagine being on a celestial body and the horizon is a stones throw away

The wheels did not lock

Those wheels did not lock, moon landing was faked

>>25586201 Moon stones are something you steal at work and then give to random people

>>25586223 I think we have 400 kg of Moon rock, plus the Russian and Chinese probe material. You can see them in a lot of museums, like the Smithsonian in Washington. All are dated to the same age and from the same material, proving the Moon origin theory as parts of Proto-Earth.

>>25586201 It's not a theory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVIMGjYpryc&t=5s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEsjn71ZJrI

>Earth and Moon in one frame from 3 million kilometres away. Captured by Japanese spacecraft Hayabusa-2. it's not that far. walkable solar systems.

>>25586259 Wow, such schizo ramblings, so convincing. So what can we learn from this thread? Moon landing deniers have no real points or arguments, no credible answers to obvious questions, let a lone a competing theory of what really happened. It's just something they choose to believe because it gives them nice feelies for whatever reason, and then they choose some FUD to rationalize it, same as with every other baseless conspiracy theory that has its believers. Thanks for playing, better luck next time.

>>25586276 brother these a videos that space frauds released showing clear evidence of doctoring You clearly didn't watch the videos or you're too scared to analyze with an open mind. Use your brain for once.

>>25586264 Pop dat lil zit

The Soviets never denied any of the moon landing desoite being the rivals of the USA in the space race. If the moon landing had been fake, the Soviets would have definitely told about that very vocally. The USA could not have faked a moon landing so that the Soviets would not have guessed it: the Soviet intelligence had managed to obtain information even from the nuclear bomb project, which was as secret as it could possibly be. Even if the USSR had conspired with the USA about faking the moon landings (why?), it would have definitely been revealed after the breakup of the Soviet Union by now. In short, everyone who denies the moon landings is a retard.

this is most american thing ever.

>>25585733 >somehow lost the technology Wat U mean "somehow"? All the Nazis they kidnapped after WWII died and Fatburgers alone can't do shit.

>>25586344 >The Soviets never denied any of the moon landing desoite being the rivals of the USA in the space race. How can you distinguish an empty tin can flying around the Moon for some time from a tin can containing astronauts?

It was real. It stopped happening because there isn't anything to do on the moon. Next landing will happen eventually and then it will stop again for the same reason.

>>25586344 They were in on it dumbass Soviets were atheists anyways why stop their enemy from spreading their own ideology?

>>25586162 Russia lost the space race. Get over it.

>>25586402 Why do conspiracy theorists believe that anyone has to prove anything to them? They make the claim, they have to present evidence. So, tell me how the Americans managed to hide from the Soviets that the mission was actually unmanned, if they could not hide the super-secret nuke drawings from them?

>>25586430 >Soviets were atheists anyways why stop their enemy from spreading their own ideology? Please translate from retarded into English.

>>25586443 Why do people denying that I fucked their moms think that I have to prove anything to them? They make a claim, they have to present evidence.

The earth is flat the sun and the moon are tiny objects much closer than we are told, our liveable area on "earth" is encircled by an ice wall covid was a hoax

>>25586463 >I fucked their moms You made the claim.

>>25585975 >Agree so far? Yes, but that doesn't mean humans could do any of that in the 70s (or now).

>>25586463 damn right They don't have any proof They cannot even prove the earth is round!

>>25586623 Spectacular

>>25586623 hehe i understand that reference

>>25586623 Until you try to get a job as a scientist

>>25586697 "Scientist" being a very specific and tightly controlled profession. I'm sure biologists get checked on their opinon on moon landing before they are allowed to observe gorillas.

>>25586480 >They cannot even prove the earth is round! Has been done like thousands of years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0pEP-iJK8o water would evaporate instantly on the moon's surface btw

>>25586802 not this retarded shit again

The assumption that underlies OP's argument ("somehow lost the technology") is that intellectual/scientific/technical progress is irreversible and inevitable, while regress is impossible. It's a naive enlightenment-era idea. It's really nothing weird that complicated skills that depend on institutional know-how and/or mind-boggling tons of money to be stunted and to degrade once the interest and money run out. The practical purposefulness of the Moon mission was questioned by the public already in the 60s, and today people are cheering for govt cuts to funding for much more obviously necessary areas.

I say flat until proven round that's what I say!

My mom told me they watched the moon landing in the polish village where she grew up in 1969, they gathered at the local firestation where they had a TV to watch it. During the broadcast, my great grandfather started laughing and yelling that its fake shit and they are all fucking morons for believing it so much that they had to physically remove him from there. He only has been in school for three years in his life but he was a well travelled person and has been to USA where he worked on railways before the wars.

>>25587339 holy fucking based

>>25587339 The original broadcast wasn't even 140p and people imagine they saw anything there.

If the Moon landing was fake why did the USSR congratulate the US on it instead of calling it fake?

>>25587400 both country are owned by jews

>>25587400 Grain and oil deals. You think all government people are as retarded they are on american twitter but it isn't like that in Russia, more so 50 years ago.

>>25587407 >>25587431 That's insane cope. Soviet Union spent 50 gorillion dollars on winning the Space Race and then just sold out for some grain when they could still have won and prove the superiority of Communism?

>>25587482 >prove the superiority of Communism Stalin was not around anymore.

>>25587510 Come on, you can't actually believe that shit, stop pretending. I guess it's true those were different times, even the Empire of Evil wouldn't blatantly lie on something important, as every idiot thinks he can get away with now.

>>25587516 Listen this is just a stupid nitpick with no fucking meaning you think if you come up with one little thing then you can avoid confronting the evidence This is a flaw in your thinking and intellectually lazy

>>25587516 You probably believe holocaust as well.

Isn't it funny how the shill army always has to desperately deflect to Flat Earth and Religion? lol

Just few years ago people considered following to be conspiracy theories and called people calling them out schizos: - Hollywood being a jewish pedophile sect - COVID-19 being engineered in a lab

ofc it was faked, rockets can't create thrust in a vacuum. used to be high school physics 100 years ago. glowniggers want you to focus on details like whether the moon landing in particular was faked when ALL of space travel is fake and we live in a jewish ruled one world order.

>>25587758 >rockets can't create thrust in a vacuum. Whoohooohooo! Are we taking out the deep bullshit now? lol

>>25587482 >when they could still have won But they won.

>>25587482 Russia won the space race.

>>25586042 i dont know if you know but the soviets sent the first man in space, so they won the space race.

still no Mc Donalds on the Moon so we were never there. even the astronauts said it.

>>25586057 Tranny is right They sent an unmanned probe, the rest was in a studio

>>25589272 i'm not a tranny, gypsy

>>25586052 > When engineers have a good design (Saturn V if it was real should even be considered exceptional) serving it's purpose - they update it, not sack it in 5 years after spending tons of money and effort to spend more on another worse design. The man that built the Saturn V, Arthur Rudolf was striped of citizenship and deported shortly after the rocket transported men to the moon.

>>25590246 BTW the "Soyuz" R7 rocket stagnated in the same way after the German engineers that helped to build them were send back.

You see at first glance that it's fake. It's similar to the jahwe scam.

bravo Kubrick