>>25585600 The panic is that Ukraine might collapse too and that Russia might manage better.

>>25585641 I think hohols are tougher. Especially now that they realize wect isn't coming to save them.

>russia keeps taking more and more of ukraine >eu has no ability to militarily oppose russia and has to threaten national leaders with election interference for collaboration <putin will lose any day now! How embarrassing.

The real question is: Who collapses first? Russia was walking on its last legs, but now Trump is abandoning Ukraine and shifting things in Russia's favour again. From here, I see the following possibilities: a) Russia collapses 2025 as predicted earlier. – Highly unlikely b) Russia isn't able to streamroll Ukraine in time before European aid increases and stabilizes the front again. War continues for many years. - Most likely c) USA decides to back Russia, thus handing them the win. - ???

>>25585600 >porkner >lack of manpower

>>25585668 >Russia was walking on its last legs, >this is what europoors actually believe

Russia is essentially "We will degrade our quality of life immeasurably to ensure your quality of life marginally degrades"

>>25585681 Yeah, 20% inflation rate, sending donkeys to the front and clownish sign-up bonuses because army and defense industry were competing for scarce manpower was totally the sign of a healthy war economy.

>>25585690 Meanwhile, you dirt eating faggots need to cut all of your social programs just to be able to afford soldiers for a war you'll never win. It's cringe. You realize that your countries are all collapsing, right? You realize that there is not one European country with any actual relevance? It's fucking over for you clowns, you have nothing. The future belongs to Russia.

>>25585698 Americans are like political bi-polar mental patients, first it was having a nuclear war with Russia, now they want to sit on their lap. Bizarre country and people

>>25585681 It really was. Russia is and was constantly getting rekt on the battlefield

>>25585705 Many "independent thinkers"

>>25585641 Imagine both countries collapsing in the same time(remember 1st word war?) and tens of millions of subhumans rush into wect. It will be an end for the wect

>>25585698 Its time to stop posting

>>25585659 It's very small pieces that are being taken. Back in '23 I claimed that no large city will change hands in this war. It's a war against the poor first and foremost. Cities is where wealth is concentrated. If poccnr could really endanger any large cities then a piss deal would be signed in hours. But poccnr cant do that, its all just football-sized pieces of farmland in bumfuck nowhere. I think both countries are matched and have human resources for eternal war with no meaningful movement of frontline. But both lack resolve to push for victory, with or without wectern help. The only thing the wectern help was changing was the duration to obvious stalemate, and having help extended that time. Ceasing help will bring stalemate sooner.

>>25585723 >I think both countries are matched and have human resources for eternal war Definitely not Ukraine. We had 170k newborns and 600k dead last year. Add to this all the killed\maimed\captured soldiers and it will be about -1 mln of people every year on the Krains. I think this country has demographic resource to fight for the 5-7 years maximum, then it's over.

It is absolutely baffling how delusional Europeans are about the war and their place in it. Europe is done for, you're full of too many dickless retards and Muslims. You can't kill your own corrupt politicians to save yourselves, so you think the moral thing to do is help Ukraine commit war crimes? lmao

>>25585757 >Ukraine commit war crimes? Zero war crimes were commit by Ukraine

>>25585757 > You can't kill your own corrupt politicians to save yourselves So what's going on with your criminal and foreign-born billionaire duo robbing your government accounts and selling your country to the Russians and Israelis? I thought the Second Amendment folks had guns for a situation like this. Turns out they are cuckolds.

>>25585600 yes yes 30mln country with full busification will all of a sudden win a war of attrition over a country with 140mln population that still can do the busification nafo xitter tier analysis

>>25585782 Ukraine mobilisation resource was around 12 mln in 2022, goal of wect is not let russians capture this resource. So, to the last hohol means to the last hohol.

>>25585803 12kk is a resource for a decade. Poccnr cant go this long, no resolve.

>>25585810 >12kk is a resource for a decade It's not, we are losing each year a million or even more

>>25585698 post keyboard you russian retard

ukraine will get 250 000 new soldiers from USA even if just bloated middle aged women they would be strapped with explosives and set on fire to run against the russians lines

>>25585705 he s a russian living a comfy life in the west he posted his latin and cyrilic keyboard once.