It is blurry as fuck lately

Sadly true. Modern graphics miss all the clarity.

>>25558737 Its mostly unreal engine

>>25558734 yeah seems like with every single game i have to force more and more sharpening

I mostly play indie games with mods. Songs of Syx, Battletech with battletech advanced mod, Battlebrothers with Legends mod.

The only modern game that looks sharp is Path of Exile 2. And only when i use FSR Without upscaling. Every other AA even with disabled upscaler looks blurry.

There should be no healthbar on the "after" image as it auto-restores all the time now.

>>25558757 yeah its from 2023, but it is funny how it has minimalist GUI

>>25558756 Elden ring is sharp to me Kcd2 is fine too

Brown/yellow filters are mid-2000s tier tho.

Settings: very high Bloom: off Motion blur: off Lens flare: off Anti-aliasing: anything but temporal Resolution scale: 100% Frame generation: off I do that with every game right after launch. Doesn't always reduce the eye soap 100% but makes it tolerable.

>>25558799 If game has TAA. alt-tab go into Radeon settings and force 80% sharpening

MDE podcast made a good point that when you were a kid or young man and you played pixel graphic games or games with low resolution and low polygons your brain would fill in the blanks with imagination and the world would still feel real now that they increased the resolution and polygons there is less for your brain to fill in and you accept it more at face value i.e. a poor simulation of reality its the uncanny valley paradox where the more realistic something gets the better it gets until it tries too hard to be realistic also, the focus on better graphics has meant less resources get spent in a development cycle on features games from the early 2000s have more non-online features than games that come out today

>>25558809 i play shitloads of old games, i dont think thats true. it feels to me that do to limitations on graphical power they had to employ actual artists and have art direction to make game look good. now it feels like everyone just using same assets and same filters/renderers and just spam random textures and objects

>>25558818 well yeah of course there has also been a general quality drop because there are less visionary art directions and more larger teams look at "five nights at freddies" one guy made that game. one guy designed the art style. it had more soul than games that come out now with entire departments of artists.

but the thing that pisses me off the most is lack of features. i dont care what the graphics are like if the features are shit.

>>25558835 Less is more See doom 2016 vs doom immortal

>>25558806 I tried sharpening TAA. The only thing it changed - the terrible ghosting became sharp. This is not the way. Any over form of AA simply doesn't have this problem.

>>25558840 more is more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhL1NZugsBk watch this video >cant knock around items >arrows disappear when fired into the air >cant enter every door >NPCs dont act and react dynamically oblivion came out for the xbox 360 and has more features than games that come out today that cannot be acceptable

>>25558799 Legit. AAA's keep using the shithead idea that games should look like stylized movies and have authentic camera, editing, and sound artifacts as if games are cast and filmed on lots and soundstages. My eyes are not panaflex cameras, I'm not watching these fucking cutscenes on a 30' screen in a movie theatre and the only sound I give a fuck about is whatever is actually a damn game function. Fuck particles and flares and THX/Dolby and Celebrity voice actors. Toaster settings with clear UI and human understandable game mechanics. Goat Simulator was righteous. Fallout 4 was Kike Union cheese.

>>25558840 >Less is more this is a brainlet thing to say

>>25558847 I dont care if core of the game is solid But it rarely is

half life 2 still holds up today and it came out in 2004 that is a damning indictment on the lack of progress of features we should have games with A.I. NPCs that can respond and provide unique dialogue responses by now

>>25558859 i do care this is something which i do care about

>>25558860 i played black mesa. Its like old game but with modern features.

there should be games by now where you can set fire to NPC's houses and have them run out screaming and the fire spreads to different buildings

Games became much bigger in every aspect. So, the production cost jumped up exponentially. So, everyone uses a lot of ready solutions which leads to bloat. It's similar to web design. Most of the sites, if written individually from scratch, would be hundreds, or thousands times smaller than they are. But if you try to actually create a modern site from scratch you would need so much money, time, and people working on it that you should be of Google or Microsoft size at least to make it happen. Hence, bloat is inevitable trade-off. And with the bloat other challenges arise. Such as optimization issues to actually being able to sell your game to a substantial number of potential customers.

we have gone backwards (stagnated) in terms of features but forwards in terms of graphics

>>25558840 i Enjoyed doom 3 more than any numale dooms. I just cant get over health regeneration and the takedowns. its such cringe gameplay

dunno what you're saying t. plays maxed out rt overdrive Cyberpunk on ultrawide oled monitor

>>25558886 with dlss 4 @ quality, transformer variant

>>25558799 Sames.

>>25558877 Same. I remember being pissy on release about every surface in it looking like a glossy plastic but now compared with all the UE/unity slop you can't even notice that. Idk why devs don't edit default material properties.

seriously who gives a shit what it looks like if it doesnt immerse you in the world better than any game has before immersion is about response to your actions, not graphics

>>25558886 Why? It looks better without RT.

I only play old games. Literally not my problem as old games, old movies, old books cannot be removed from my access to enjoy.

>>25558925 it looks a lot better with rt, in overdrive

>>25558928 Try Talos Principle Its the only "modern" game I played and was not disappoint

>>25558938 Whqt else did you play

>>25558928 based

>>25558937 You only think that because you bought a meme GPU.

>>25558928 also indie films, indie games and self-published authors are much better than the big studio and corporate shit it just is!!!!!

>>25558950 nope before i bought my 4090 i already tried: - the very limited rt version of cyberpunk on ps5 - rt psycho on my 3070 mobile laptop (which i had to return while in warranty after ~1.5 years and got all my money back); sure, it was 1080p, and it was sub 30 fps, but at least i could demo it live so i knew full well what i was getting into

>>25558945 Team Fortress 2

>>25558728 Pic2 gives 2025-2 too much credit. The water reflection should be cometely gone and replaced with a shitty frosted glass effect.

>>25558967 tf2 is a chad game

>>25558967 Did you just run around empty map alone?

>>25558985 tf2 has a thriving community

>>25558964 Please do some screenshots to compare. But not now.

>>25558974 wrong. old games had working mirrors

>>25558998 That's my point. There are PS2 games with working reflections but it's even rarer now than it was then.

>>25559008 The way they implemented them is whacky: they rendered an entire room and character with mirror being a window Too costly for modern games

>>25558985 What you mean dude, theres always something going on

>>25559021 but we have muh raytracing now. why dont trhey use that

>>25559021 videocards are now thousands of times better than what i had in 2002

>>25559029 Coders are tens of thousands of times worse

>>25559018 even older

>>25559029 Props now have hundreds of thousands polygons instead of just dozens.

>>25559025 They only do rays for 1/10 of the resolution. You can't do proper mirrors with that.

>>25559033 I remember the funny mirror from Super Mario 643

>>25559033 Mirrors don't evsn increase the amount of pixels that have to be rendered on the screen. It's just developers being lazy. Also why they can do water reflections but not mirrors?

>>25559053 If you have to render the room two times you have doubled the amount of polygons.

>>25559053 yea but they have to render a 2nd view of the room

>>25558728 >bloom I remember this trend from 2007.

>>25559201 It's the same with movies. Everything is so dark now sometimes you can't see shit. And even sound engineers got so bad people have to use subtitles to be able to decipher what actors are saying and install sound normalization plugins to not go deaf with shots and explosions.

>>25559279 worst part is audio. modern movies have the worst sound profiles possible random noise going above speech. random music etc.

>>25559286 if you have 5.1 you can set the dialog

>>25559279 >>25559286 I guess since recording is digital, everybody use post processing to "fix" or "enhance" bad/poor recording. I guess it is cheaper than to redo a scene or a track.

>>25559021 That's the same way it's done now. There's not really any other way to do it. Only modern graphics and resolutions have made it exponentially more expensive.

>>25559033 this is precicesly what i mean no reflections = not as interactive we have gone backwards, not forwards "realistic graphics" that sacrafice interactivity can suck my fat hairy cock

>>25559306 It literally costs nothing to make the voice truck slightly louder and effects track slightly quieter when muxing. Bad sound design is a conscious choice.

>>25559331 I'd have thought Ray Tracing tech would make nice reflections trivial for developers to implement. The engine's calculating reflections of light particles all the time thanks to Ray Tracing, why not just declare a surface as shiny and let the engine take care of it?

>>25559320 >There's not really any other way to do it There are many actually, google it.

>>25559340 The craziest thing is that they sound like shit in movie theaters too. I could excuse movies sounding shitty on my home PC and headphones if that means they sound better in their native movie theaters. But not even that, they sound like shit no matter what.

>>25559341 Isn't that how they do it? But in CP2077 it costs you 50% fps.

>>25559353 Seen a vid some weeks ago by some coder guy explaining some fx stuff and saying modern videogame programmers are lazy and retarded.

>>25559364 I knew few guys from gamedev (believe it or not, tons of projects all over the world had parts of them outsourced to Russia before 2022, rockstar's, pubg, more than I can imagine). Sure, there were some entitled lazy fucks who went into it for parties and free cafeteria. There also were some very able guys yet they complained that they have to half-ass stuff year after years because they only paid for a tiny amount of time to implement this or that. I personally understood that the industry is fucked and there's no salvation when one of my subordinates (we were not in a gamedev, a tech stuff) used Selenium - basically a Chrome java app - for a script which did a single web query, that could be done with curl/wget, request library in Python, etc. He ran out of a 4gb virtual machine pretty fast. The guy was green tho, he got a bit better later on.

>>25558728 >(((for some reason)))

With games coding is actually a tiny part and coders don't get to decide pretty much anything. Unless it's a one man project.

>>25559502 >Selenium - basically a Chrome java app - for a script which did a single web query Brutal. Beginners make mistakes all the time, it's just weird to see a mistake where they implement an overkill solution like this.

>>25559342 Such as? If you mean raytracing that's still extremely expensive at high resolutions.

xD

>>25559653 Real problem is niggers and women tbh

>>25559653 What's the horse armor meme?

>>25559689 Its when Todd tried to push DLCs on games, he was the first one to do it

>>25559689 In fact, the infamous "Horse Armor" download for Oblivion, released in April of 2006, ranked ninth on the top ten downloadable content packs as of whenever Bethesda decided to stop counting. The good news for fans of dressing their horsies is that, according to Bethesda's Ashley Cheng, the pretty little suits of equine armor continue to sell daily. For the full list, read on. 1. Wizard's Tower 2. Thieves Den 3. Mehrunes Razor 4. Spell Tomes 5. Vile Lair 6. The Orrery 7. Knights of the Nine 8. Shivering Isles 9. Horse Armor 10. Fighter's Stronghold

>>25559701 before this it was unthinkable that you can buy DLC for horse armour in single player game

>>25559696 Asian games had insane bullshit monetization in video games for years before oblivion, horse armor was only the first offender in the west

>>25558877 based, I hope not the gay bfg edition tho automatic lantern is for faggots

>>25559564 Everything except raytracing and rerendering won't give you proper full scene reflections.

>>25559341 They don't have enough rays for a mirror. The resolution wouldn't be high enough.

They could have spend computational resources on stuff like better physics or better AI, instead they spend it on higher res textures and models with more polygons. Reason for this I think that even if you make game with super cool physics or genius AI it will be hard to show in trailers and screenshots, so marketing the game will be hard. Back in the day technological leaps were easier to show: for example Doom 2.5D engine -> Quake full 3D engine or sprite RTS -> 3D units RTS.

I enjoyed Dwarf Fortress for years without a custom tileset. Some of what is considered bad graphics could also be a great stylistic choice depending on what the dev is going for. I never understood why normies are so obsessed with SUPER MEGA ULTIMATE GAIDEN REALISTIC GRAPHICS(tm).

>>25559653 >fall of western AAA gaming >2025 But that happened in the late 2000s, and it's the same with Japanese.

>>25559320 no it's not you fucking retard, i dont think a single game made after 2004 has used that method unless it's some low fidelity indie game stylized to look like a game older than a 2004 game. it CAN'T even be done that way with modern graphics because the post processing effects don't work properly when using this trick. for a detailed mirror like one in a bathroom it needs to be raytraced per-pixel, and for any lesser reflections, SSR or cubemapping based solutions are used

>>25558840 From my POV, Doom 2016 is already slop tier. The sound effects are trashy movie tier, the monsters are uninspired and the engine (whose technology is great) and art are kinda fighting each other. The engine seems to smooth / interpolate movements somehow, but the art people decided to do a LOT of stop-and-go jerky movements, copying some dumb action movie tropes. I hate the jerky movements (glory kills and other scripted movements) and I hate its interaction with the motion smoothing engine, it feels icky and wrong. "No regenerating health" but enemies inexplicably dropping health and ammo, much more if you're low, is also really dumb. Do regenerating health or (much preferred) don't, don't pretend that you aren't doing it but then effectively do it anyway, just very awkwardly.

>>25559033 I like how every tile has the same smear pattern.