Not my problem I didn't vote for him this time around

>>25556372 I’m a former Republican who refuses to vote Trump as well. The corruption and bribery is too much to look the other way.

Bud do they have eggs?

will the market really crash? I would absolutely love it.

>>25556376 Who the fuck are you kidding. Go back to your NGO before Doge kills it

>>25556383 Have you ever considered that people irritated with Trump are not shills, there's plenty of them

newsflash: china has trump by the balls through musk (who enjoys a privileged relationship in china and whose business over there is directly protected by the ccp - does it make sense for such boy to stand against china?) and the russoid secret services. rushittia controlling trump is just a smokescreen. in reality china is running all this show.

If you shorted them, you'd be able to retire now.

smartfrogs invested in eggs

>>25556382 No doubt. Even Warren Buffett is pulling his money out of America because Trump is bad for the economy. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/warren-buffett-warning-of-scoundrels-and-fiscal-folly-slashes-his-exposure-to-u-s-stocks-15c6e66a

>>25556400 where do they push??

This is the second time this thread has been created, OP is larping, and isn’t even being paid to do it so just imagine what kind of unhinged mentally ill psycho is behind that keyboard

I’ve talked to trumptards IRL who claim it’s a good thing Trump is crashing the economy Complete clowns all of them 🤡

>>25556414 damn i should've voted kamala

>>25556362 Reddit is a stock? Holy soy

Don't care, still voting Trump LOL

Perharps its a good thing. It mean people are converting their stocks to money, which could theoretically move the economy. We need to wait and see what will happen.

>>25556400 Buffett has always amassed cash when he expected a crash to happen. Dozens of times before Trump. Go back to your NGO, parasite

All these stonks were criminially over-valued anyway so I guess the Jews are just taking home their profits from their manipulation, the old mom-and-pop investor is again made to foot the bill of fancy rape islands

>>25556509 >were criminially over-valued They still are. When I got into investing I was shocked to find out that americans still bring their money to companies with P/E already at 40 or even 150. Any Securities Analysis 101 tells you that typical good value is 2-6.

They will enjoy another 100 bln to Israel

>>25556554 >P/E What's this?

Kikes are gonna weakened america before they attach to a new host

>>25556386 These people are literally mentally ill. They worship trump like he is some jesus figure. They don't want accept that he literally sells out to kikes. Its even more pathetic when non americans simp that hard for an obvious scam artist. You must be mentally ill to overlook all the evidence. He could send 500 billion a year to israel, and they would still defend trump, and delude themselves that any person being critical of this is a shill. As if anybody wastes money shilling on a imageboard with 40 active users.

If I had voted Trump I would feel like an assclown because he’s wrecking the economy now.

>>25556594 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price–earnings_ratio

If I had supported Biden Harris I would feel like a subhuman because one was senile and the party lied to me. And the other one is an IQ80 puppet. Imagine falling for their vicious lies.

>>25556666 > you have to support literally every single thing trump does because the nigger woman was worse

>>25556673 Nobody said that. But pretending to be a former Trump supporter is a new low by some spammers on KC.

>>25556421 Yes, she only wasted a Billion in a few months on her worthless campaign. She would be so much better at keeping the spending machine going.

In just 40 days in office trump already has send 12 billion to israel.

>>25556683 You are mentally ill, its that easy. Instead of actually accepting that some people that used to support him now don't, you have to delude yourself everybody here is paid to disagree with you. I also was pro trump 2016. But at some point when you get kiked enough you stop being delusional and accept reality.

"bernd" how many Americans do you think own significant assets in stock? Say, >$999. I don't know, but it's probably not a lot. And certainly not the working class. Probably not much in the middle class either. I do know that I'm sick of everything but stocks being a bubble, stocks are a scary crash. And they can NEVER EVER go down or it's the end of the world. EVER AND FOREVER!!1!

>>25556703 > how many Americans do you think own significant assets in stock? Literally all your 401ks and pensions are in stocks.

>>25556697 You being pro-Trump means fuckall

>>25556709 Only reason to be really mad is if you planned on retiring right about now, just hold if you don't know what to do about your stocks

>>25556720 Keep supporting zion don. Can't help npcs.

>>25556732 And, anyone who is financially planning for retirement and near it won't be all in on stocks if they follow typical advice, so no need to cash out the stocks

>>25556732 You think stocks going down literally just has a impact on you if you own stocks?

>>25556647 >There is a general consensus among most investors that a P/E ratio of around 20 is 'fairly valued'. huh? can you comment?

>>25556760 On what exactly?

>>25556732 This Everyone lost their minds when the covid crash hit and then the feds just turned on the money printer and did negative interest rates. The market has been completely unmoored from fundamentals for a long time. Unless you are a day trader or someone operating on a short time horizon you should just ignore financial news for awhile

>>25556697 Must be embarrassing all the NGO corruption that is getting uncovered. And you supported Biden/Harris.

Great, it means it’s time to buy

All the balloon companies that don't produce anything valuable to the humankind just return to their natural place. Meanwhile real companies like Intel stay stable.

>>25556825 What do you mean i supported harris? Im not a shart, why would i go out of my way to support some americans democrats? But that doesn't means i have to like trump. Biden and harris are career politician, but trump is literally just a grifter and scammer. He doesn't even cares scamming his own supporters for billions.

>>25556853 Intel is not american. People pull out of american markets because they don't trust in american dominance in the next 20 yeaars, specially now that america will lose its influence over europe.

>>25556779 You comment that 2-6 should be expected as normal, while the wikipedia article says 20 is the overall norm.

>>25556709 Americans aren't as wealthy as you think. Here are some numbers to look at while you consider the population is 340 million. https://www.ici.org/401k >401(k) plans held $8.9 trillion in assets as of September 30, 2024 in more than 715,000 plans, on behalf of about 70 million active participants and millions of former employees and retirees. Savings rolled over from 401(k)s and other employer-sponsored retirement plans also account for about half of the $15.2 trillion held in individual retirement account (IRA) assets as of September 30, 2024. https://publicplansdata.org/quick-facts/national/ >pensions >Collectively, the Census reports these plans have: $5.5 trillion in assets. 12.2 million active (working) members and 15.3 million retirees. $392.9 billion in benefit distributions annually Do remember that these accounts aren't equal. I wouldn't be surprised if the top 10% of accounts held 90% of the assets. https://siblisresearch.com/data/us-stock-market-value/ >The total market capitalization of the U.S. stock market is currently $62,204,752.9 million (or $62.2 trillion), (Jan 1st, 2025). >In the year 2024, the total market value of U.S. public companies increased 22.5%. Between 1/1/2010 and 12/31/2025, the market cap of public U.S. corporations increased 312.5%. 3.125x over 15 years is not normal. A pop needs to happen, the sooner it happens the less it'll hurt.

>>25556944 The danger now is if people will keep investing in america, and buy the dip. What trump is doing right now is eroding trust in america all over the world. If countries build up their own aliances america loses influence in europe without even leaving nato.

>>25556944 Do you own stock or ETFs? What should I buy?

>>25556969 >eroding trust in america all over the world If I had a nickle for every time I've read that or a similar phrase over the last couple of days on KC I could buy some stock. Concern trolling a bit too hard there.

>>25556995 No, I'm too broke caring for my family. Don't take financial advice from imageboards.

>>25556362 jews tbh

>>25556998 > concern trolling What is this retardet reddit term. Its just a geopolitical reality that he is causing this, without even having pulled out of nato. You invested the last decades building nato up, and having influence all over the world, just to piss it away. If europe goes even further and rejects the dollar it would be a catastrophe for the stock market. But hey, you said it all doesn't matter if you personally don't own stocks. I guess we find out in the next 5 years.

>>25556853 Intel is the biggest meme company of all and scammed the German government.

>>25556372 >I didn't vote for him >Not my problem since you live it burgerland iit will inevitably be your problem

I wanted to invest everything into s§p. But now im not really sure. Even world bank predicts that the returns in the next 15 years will be much lower than they used to be. Now with all the trump stuff i can't imagine it will look better. Maybe i wait for 1-2 years before i dump it all into etfs. America obviously has the potential to win the AI race, and stocks would explode. But if investors lose trust, and europe goes against america even more, it would look bad for my stocks.

>>25557019 Bargaining is pointless

>>25557039 You literally have no argument, so you have to cope with this. We are not on twitter, where such retardet attempts might work.

>>25557039 >Bargaining is pointless whats with that pussy ass defeatist mindset? you are the land of the free! wect must be saved

>>25557051 He is basically saying i am bargaining, because i want america to be in nato or something like that. So i bargaining with random 89 IQ neets from america.

>>25557058 > because i want america to be in nato or something like that. mutts are in NATO ... hopefully not for long anymore

>>25557051 It’s essentially saying the sky is falling if you don’t stop doing what you’re doing, fact is Trump is in office for 4 years and has thin majorities in the house and senate, he can do whatever he wants aside from passing major legislation (the thin majority allows him to pass legislation related to the budget), he also created the 6 of 9 Supreme Court conservative majority so there is unlikely going to be any avenue for getting him out of office You have a chance during the midterms, which structurally speaking (given what senators and governors are up for election) isn’t in the Democrats favor All this seething is premature, trying to change minds, raising the alarms is meaningless right now and won’t even significantly impact the next election

>>25557071 Deepstate wouldn't let trump just give up their tool to influence half the wrold that they invested into for the last 80 years. Trump simply bluffed because he thought he could pressure europeans. But instead europeans are now losing trust in america and building their own aliances, which weakens americans influence. Art of the deal.

>>25556941 At p/e 20 you should expect to double your money in 20 years. That does seem reasonable in a slow economy like with 1-3% interest rates, if you're opening a business with extremely long production cycle (from getting a loicense build a steel production plant to first shipments, for example). Maybe a bit faster if the business is growing and it is expected to change (to the better). In general that would be a bad investment because there are a lot of stuff to put your money into where they will provide bigger returns. It's an investment, it's not food or clothes you wear. Why would you want a "fair" value? To be profitable as an investor one should buy undervalued things and sell when them at "fair" price, not buy. Notice how every source is saying 20 is average on american market, not that it's good. American market-making stocks are growth stocks. Almost nobody gives a fuck how profitable is the business behind them, everybody expects the price of stocks to go up due to hype and make profits on selling them (speculating).

>>25557093 The damage is already done. Why would countries trust sharts again, if they at any point could elect another trump.

Im no expert and no genius, but from what I have observed usually changing too many systems too fast does backfire hugely and in in unexpected ways. People think they have control over it, but then unconsidered things pile up amd shit hits the fan. If Trump goes on like this the US goes down the drain. They all seem to be on cocaine.

>>25557095 Stop talking about Europeans. It's Brussels. And Europe hates the bureaucrats there especially the Germans. You're absolutely being lied to and deluded because of your media machine.

Lol nice. My defence stocks going through the roof. Rheinmetall +13.5%

>>25557108 You probably can get rid of all such programs like "Dancetherapy in brazil for mentally ill trannies" without breaking too much. But they literally mess with military aliances and social security based on some hunches they have. But i doubt the endgoal is to have america be in good standing longterm. The endgoal is to make as much money as they can in this 4 years trump is in power. So these billionaires all give each other government contracts, force people to buy locally with tarifs, and get rid of income tax so all these big companies that saved up wealth for the last decades can cash out completly tax free. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity.

Another redditor who mistook criticism of ziondon on kc for having kamala tire views

>>25557095 Thats one way of seeing it. You can also argue that this shitshow in reality serves Trumps claimed initial goals of strengthening NATO (by forcing the EU to arm up) and to put the hat of Ukraine onto the europeans. It isnt beautiful but hes getting to it. There is only hoping that thats his strategy.

>>25557140 You just over and over repeat retardet bullshit of "YOU BEING LIED TO BECAUSE YOU DONT SHARE MY OPINION". I don't watch any mainstream media. Im sorry, but not everybody has to come to the same conclusion as a 89 IQ albanian obsessed with trump. If you actually had coherent arguments, we could have a debate. But instead you keep doing your schizo routine, thinking it will convince people. Sorry, but i don't like the kike. You can cry as much as you want.

Who cares about the stock market? It's just a casino.

>>25557172 A unified European defense strategy, capable of standing up to Russia and China, is likely the last thing the U.S. government desires. NATO’s existence has long served as America’s leverage in transatlantic affairs. The U.S. has secured numerous advantages by being the cornerstone of NATO, essentially guaranteeing Europe’s protection against Russian threats. In exchange, the U.S. reaps significant economic benefits, channeling much of the wealth westward. Should the EU ramp up its defense budget, it would likely prioritize internal production and trade, reducing the flow of funds to America.

>>25557183 You literally make up that Albanian arc nonsense to "win on the internet". You think I'm going to waste any energy on a real debate against a subhuman like you.

>>25557194 Commie tier understanding of economics.

What’s German political culture like, how do SPD and CDU convince voters that their policies are best?

>>25557208 No you don't waste energy. You just keep over and over screaming "YOU TRUST THE MEDIA" when somebody doesn't agrees with you, and post retardet screenshots in an attempt to appear deep and smart. You waste all this energy keep replying, but you can't actually form a coherent counter argument, because there is none. You are out of your depth. So keep spamming and sperging.

>>25557221 Cdu just gets voted by boomers regardless. For this election the cdu promised they totally gonna solve the refugee crysis, so boomers and also some younger people fail for it. And because the AFD is too far right for them, they vote CDU. And SPD is for leftist that would never vote right wing, so they strategically vote SPD to rule with the Cdu.

>>25557228 >and post retardet screenshots in an attempt to appear deep and smart. I posted this each time you called me Albanian. Imagine how many times you had to resort to this lie. Glad it makes you mad.

>>25557172 >You can also argue that this shitshow in reality serves Trumps claimed initial goals of strengthening NATO Trump doesn't gives a shit if nato is strong. Trump wanted that nato countries actually pay the US directly. He can't comprehend what advantage america has thru nato/ pretends he doesn't understand so he can rile up his voters that america is being taken advantage off by these european leeches. But obviously at this point his art of the deal strategy is not gonna work out, europe is definitly not giving into it now.

>>25557261 Ok albanian.

Germany has a state media machine that is as dumb as CNN on average. It's incredible. Germans being uneducated and gullible as fuck (just look at the Germanball in this thread) fall for this and can't get rid of this tyrannical system.

>>25557206 Of course it would mean losses for the US. But then again you have to consider that Russia and China are growing together and that the US couldnt defend its interests in Europe and the Pacific at the same time. Dont forget for example that China asked of Russia to wait for the invasion until the olympics (?) were over. From this point of view it makes sense to kick Europes ass to wake it up. A coordinated attack on Taiwan, Korea or Japan, and on NATOs eastern flank could break the rule of the US

gtfo ouf nato. It will result in nato being dissolved and we'll be free of it.

gtfo ouf of nato. It will result in nato being dissolved and we'll be free of it.

>>25557289 A stronger, independent EU will just ditch the U.S. altogether, not rally behind it.

>>25557310 Nobody is going to join a German lead union to war as much as you fantasize about it. Germany as a country will go down in history as a country of failed warmongers. Only Prussia was successful before unification. You are a joke country. Should have been balkanized a long time ago.

>>25557317 Thats one possibility as well.

>over two months not a crash then but a soft landing

I dont care about tesla and reddit stocks and the economy is not going to collapse. You lost, soyburger. Go back to blogging about trains or whatever.

>>25557326 I mean in the long run its good for us to be independent of America finally. But in the short term it will cost us a lot of money, and america basically pisses away all investments they made into the last decades, and all this for some meme trump used to rile his people up. Doing this in such high tension times is just bad for both, the US and Europe. People can keep telling themselves its some 4d chess move of trump to get europe to invest in their own defense, but that would literally go against US interest. Its literally just a blunder of trump because his bluff didn't work out the way he imagined. Real life diplomacy is a bit different than doing business deals on a tv show.

>>25557342 I wanted to invest my money in america. In what i invest it now that trump fucked it all up?

>>25556383 He lies here almost every day. One day he's a lowly trucker who just wants to bet on ol' Oakland Kam, and the next he's a former PhD student. He picks up his new story from twatter every day and off he goes to shill.

>>25557321 I dunno what your Albanian heda is imagining but I don't think we'll be attacked anytime soon.

>>25557321 its weird how prussia created a german empire which then lost control of prussia but somehow didn't cease to exist after having lost is key component. does this mean germany is a braindead nation? a chicken running around with it's head cut off?

>>25557362 BUY BUY BUY €400B will be spent on defence.

>>25557377 I want to invest low risk for the next 15-20 years. Not invest into things based on current trends. Who knows how these companies will do in the long term.

>>25557387 Get out of the stock market then

>>25557401 You can have relative low risk investments in the stock market. You seem to confuse stockmarket with wallstreet, who basically just gambled your money away because they knew there was no risk for them involved.

>>25557408 >confuse stockmarket with wallstreet

>>25557414 Is your albanian brain not able to make a argument?

>>25557420 Thats a yes.

Threda theme song: This was sick when I was a bairn. Works today too.

Will it be a proper crash, or another nothingburger?

>>25556941 Reply something to me, nigga >>25557100

>>25556944 And Americans are all getting poorer under Trump.

>>25556642 I think the cognitive dissonance of being a MAGApede just drives people insane.

>>25557876 The public seems mostly sane, still

>>25556779 Fugg. Bought when everyone freaked out because of Deep Seek. And now this.

Does this mean that I should buy stocks now in hopes that they will go up once Trump leaves office?

Tesla cant be a surprise for anyone. It already over valued after all the lies by Musk, but now a full on boycott I suspect the stock will continue to be a blood bath going forward.

>>25557377 Just sold my Rheinmetall today with 4k profit. It got a bit too hot for me.