Check out this idea.
Let's assume US human space program is hoax. And soviets and later Russia were in on that for some benefits. All people were delivered to ISS and returned from on Soyuzes, later given back to americans to airdrop into the ocean their heroes. It went on smooth for decades. Then (2024) some shit happens between US and Russia. Putin tells Biden to bend the knee or the deal is off, Biden publicly expresses extreme animosity towards Putin and Russia and does not succumb to demands. Okey, then, now Roskosmos on closed channels informs NASA that it won't be returning Starliner's crew (fake-launched of course). NASA declares Starliner faulty, drops it, leaves crew on ISS. They say like Musk will save the day and SpaceX even "launches" Dragon with 2 spare seats to return their astronauts, here's the link for your convenience:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Crew-9
PLEASE NOTE: IT WAS LAUNCHED September 28, 2024. It's been staying docked to ISS all this time ready to take people back. Or so they say. Meanwhile trying to broker the deal with Russia (Biden had been kicked off long ago) because US/NASA/Musk can't get their people back to later present them to public. After Trump's coronation and warming up with Russia, Musk tells reporters they will get them back WITH A NEW ROCKET in February, later moves it to March (stubborn Zelensky fucked up their plans?). The Dragon is still there (officially) since September, docked, seats available. In the same February Musk calls TO END THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION - he wants out of this because Roskosmos/Russia/Putin has him/NASA/US by the balls.
What choices do they have?
- admit it was all and always a hoax - political suicide
- openly ask enemy state under heaviest sanctions to get their people back - strange thing, huh?
- cave in and go on with the successful space partnership (he-he) both sides have enjoyed for 60 years, then call it off later without pressure or rush
What do you think? Could that be? Doesn't that explain US space program troubles and sudden exiting proxy war against Russia?
I am afraid KC can't have a real discussion but I'll at least try.
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 02:10:13 GMT
No. 25552387
niggger reengigigerre nigger
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 02:23:46 GMT
No. 25552469
>>25552553
What does Roskosmos have to do with it? The Starliner crew was launched in early June. I'm sure that if we were on friendlier terms with Roskosmos, we'd have asked them to bring it down, but staying in the ISS for a few months longer than expected while they wait for the next scheduled flight back is not that big of a deal.
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 02:31:40 GMT
No. 25552513
>>25552553
Where do you get your facts? The Boeing turd launched in June and came back unmanned, mostly without incident, in early September. They announced in August before that that the astronauts would be coming back on a SpaceX flight that was already scheduled.
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 02:40:50 GMT
No. 25552553
>>25552600
>>25552469
Let me try to clarify.
The idea here is that all your manned ships are a hoax. Assume that just to entertain your mind. So Starliner never carried any people anywhere. It's crew was launched by a russian Soyuz behind a curtain. Then russians said "you've been naughty, we're not taking them back".
>>25552513
>Where do you get your facts?
Musk interviews and twitter. Official NAS website.
>on a SpaceX flight that was already scheduled
It was already launched on September 28, 2024. It's right there. If they are not lying. Why would they need a new one? What if they are pretending to have a need for the new ship while actually they need to broker guarantees from Putin that he will return Butch and Sunni on another Soyuz in March (again behind a curtain) and hand you back so you could airdrop them on a fake Crew Dragon which never carried people to/from ISS? Otherwise why not use the Crew Dragon already launched for this exact mission 5 months ago?
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 02:51:01 GMT
No. 25552600
>>25552622
>>25552553
Oh, sorry, I missed your point.
Well, I've seen manned NASA launches live in-person before, so I'm pretty sure they do put people into big rockets, and those rockets fly straight up for a long time, usually at least.
>It was already launched on September 28, 2024. It's right there.
Yes, Crew-9 launched in September with extra seating to bring back the two astronauts from the Starliner flight. They announced that in August. It's scheduled to come back in March. It was scheduled to come back in February, but they want to launch the next flight (Crew-10) first so that the astronauts already there can hand over the station to the new ones before coming back.
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 02:59:24 GMT
No. 25552622
>>25552600
>they want to launch the next flight (Crew-10) first so that the astronauts already there can hand over the station to the new ones before coming back.
That sounds quite reasonable, but again, the Starliner crew were extras and supposed to be there for a week or two (yes, I know there are 2 more guys which are actually important) and
>Crew-9, which launched on September 28, 2024, was originally slated to spend 10 days in space
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 03:05:07 GMT
No. 25552638
>>25552879
bernd will fall for this (he's retarded and subhuman)
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 03:19:49 GMT
No. 25552694
>>25552723
I don't understand what you are implying. That it is fake? Then why is there even a problem with bringing people in and out of the set?
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 03:27:47 GMT
No. 25552723
>>25556102
>>25552694
>Then why is there even a problem with bringing people in and out of the set?
I'm assuming here that ISS or at least some part of it must be real with actual people there and the problem being that NASA/US never had real manned spaceships.
This does not prohibit the existanse of a fake ISS set where they film something else.
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 04:05:21 GMT
No. 25552879
>>25552638
Nikita go choke on some refugger turd log
OP is your superior and he is speaking
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 12:36:45 GMT
No. 25554251
>>25554262
There been periods when NASA openly fully relied on Russia to transport humans.
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 12:38:37 GMT
No. 25554262
>>25554251
that period was something like two decades
it is amazing that boeing and other "legacy" nasa suppliers were not able to create a working manned launch system in 2 decades, despite having billions of funding, and supposedly decades of experience of doing just that
it looks more like they were not even trying, and obongo and others were just giving them money for kickbacks
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 17:34:30 GMT
No. 25556005
>>25556102
>>25557763
You can literally see space station with your own eyes, how can it be hoax?
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 17:39:09 GMT
No. 25556038
>>25556102
>>25552378
looool and after schizoing up something like this you have the audacity to tell other people they're coping. this is quite literally physically the biggest cope i've ever seen on kc. are you going to watch livestream of another starship launch later today?
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 17:46:01 GMT
No. 25556102
>>25556005
Read, nigga, read.
>>25552723
>>25556038
You're coping by calling this a schizoing.
Yes, I will watch Elon doing another non-manned launch into the ocean.
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 20:47:37 GMT
No. 25557738
The mission continuously postponed since July is supposed to happen right this month.
If this theory is correct, it will happen after some notable favor from US to Russia, or will be delayed further until such a favor.
If SpaceX gets them back without any favors - well, it was a fun thought experiment.
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 20:50:19 GMT
No. 25557763
>>25557813
>>25556005
These people are psychotic. They just make retaardet shit up in their head in delusion, and when anybody points out any flaw in their insane delusions they just make more insane shit up to double down.
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 20:54:20 GMT
No. 25557795
SÄGE!
>Let's assume US human space program is hoax.
stopped reading here, ty for your mongol concern about the usa
Bernd
Mon, 03 Mar 2025 20:59:13 GMT
No. 25557849
SÄGE!
>let's a assume a completely absurd thesis