>>25548110 I still have no idea what "right-" or "left-politics" are supposed to mean. Isolationism is the American way. Getting involved in foreign bullshit is treason. Friend to all, enemy of none, that is the real America

Peace movements were often hijacked to serve Russian interests, it's not about "left" or "right" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_influence_on_the_peace_movement

>>25548131 >Getting involved in foreign bullshit is treason. Friend to all, enemy of none, that is the real America maybe practice what you preach then, America has been sticking its nose in and causing conflicts all over the world for the past 80yrs

So this is why they are giving billions worth of weaponry to israel which plans to take part of syria and lebanon? cool

i was thinking about this, funny world now. a republican president who is anti war, and liberals protesting for more war

>>25548110 It's interesting how every conservative retard is now anti-war cause russia is aligned with their rotten ideology. I wonder if they'd still be so outspokenly anti-war if russia was a "liberal western shithole". Conservative hypocrisy at its finest.

>>25548367 Nice mental gymnastics, warmonger

>>25548367 >t. german jew

>>25548110 >explain how this came about MK Ultra on a wide scale.

>>25548392 dude it's just so very obvious.same story in germany where the afd and bsw portray themselves as the new anti-war-parties. at the same time they're also pro-russia. it's just very convenient now to mask your russia-friendliness (read: oligarch-fascist-friendliness) as being pacifistic.

Being against war is not the same as giving the pidors exactly what they want

>>25548407 nice, you just disqualified yourself.

>>25548131 >Isolationism is the American way. you spent 250 years meddling in other peoples affairs

>>25548180 Yeah every sheepfuckistan sure loves to blame CIA for all their troubles

How do you become influential as an isolationist incel?

I am all for the apartheid but on the world stage that seems like not very influential policy. well fuck the world

USA will become like Russia? Passive-aggressive hoe?

>now they were also against fighting in WWII

>>25548110 If Trump says "we are going to back up Ukraine against Russia" rightwing would wholeheartedly agree. If Trump says "we are not going to back up Ukraine against Russia" rightwing would wholeheartedly agree. They seem to be mindlessly accepting of anything.

Mass media-induced psychosis. Hang all the politicians and journalists IRL, and everything will be back to normal in an days

>>25548505 If CNN/BBC says "we are going to back up Ukraine against Russia" leftwing would wholeheartedly agree. If CNN/BBC says "we are not going to back up Ukraine against Russia" leftwing would wholeheartedly agree. They seem to be mindlessly accepting of anything.

>>25548525 Yes. Both do it tbh.

>>25548110 >explain how this came about Simple: Being Anti-War in today's context means being pro-capitulation towards an weaker and evil opponent. Rightwingers do have a tendency to be domesticated cattle, so it suits them to capitulate without a fight, because that's their natural instinct and that's what they're doing all their life.

Being "anti-war" was never left. There are imperialist wars and wars of national liberation. >>25548245 >i was thinking about this, funny world now. a republican president who is anti war, and liberals protesting for more war The right in america was more isolationist more often than not besides the cold war when they became pro-war because it was to roll back communism e.g. republicans today still want a war with China but don't want to fight Russia because Russia is anti-communist pro-financial oligarchy

>>25548746 >because Russia is anti-communist pro-financial oligarchy They are still led by KGB officials that were groomed by their former communist government. They also are highly authoritarian. I'd say, that russia is modernized communism. As is china, which btw in many aspects is hypercompetetive and hypercapitalist by the standards of people that see "mixed economies" still as capitalist, which they aren't.

>>25548894 Now say that again, but with words that have meaning instead of -ists.

The anti war position being that countries being invaded shouldn't be able to defend themselves/you can't support countries defending themselves. Except if its israel of course. Basically just if russia invades a country, you can't defend yourself.

It’s under appreciated how anti war Democlaps like Tulsi Gabbard swung for Trump

>>25548894 >They are still led by KGB officials that were groomed by their former communist government Intelligence agents don't really care about state ideology. KGB helped smash the Soviet state to enrich themselves

>>25548906 I've been replying to a post that's full of these -ist and -ism words, so not using them does not make sense. In communist history there was an very important thing called the communist international, comintern in short. They were basically deciding how international communism looks. After WW1 they decided, that the economic and social model of international communism was a pipedream, and that they should try to achieve communism on a national level, in large parts, because all attempts of creating a international planned economy did not even work in theory, whereas the german war-economy of WW1 has proven to be workable while still being centrally planned by political actors. So instead of marxian economics, the german wartime economy became their rolemodel. Soon afterwards many if not most former communist and socialists switched to more nationalist rhethorics, and people like Hitler and Mussolini, among many others, became household names even in nationalist circles. Well, and the model that they have created was what we now call the "mixed economy". Which was a omnipotent state that did not directly own the means of production, but had the power to tell the owners what to do and not to do with their property via regulation and bureaucratic directives. Modern-day Russia as well as china, just like gayrope and the US, follow these principles. I would argue, that Russia and China allow more freedom for their markets and make less use of the power that their absolutist state does have. So the level of taxation is much lower in china and russia, and there is much less bureaucracy and regulation than in the west, and the level of market-entry is significantly lower because requirements are lowered. But this does not mean, that their state is not absolutist and willing and able to control every aspect of their economy if it sees a reason to do so. They are just enlightened enough to understand, that this creates opportunity-costs, so it's better if that does not happen more than it absolutely has to.

These tards are learned isolationists

>>25548977 >Intelligence agents don't really care about state ideology Intelligence are secret-police and the secret police first and foremost believes in the supremacy of the state, or else they would not have joined the secret-police. And even though this mindset is not being questioned nowadays, I still think that's an ideology, and that this ideology is a branch of communism.

>>25548110 No idea, but it's upside-down.

the people who support war in western countries will never do the fighting they just want to send the men they made fun of for the last two decades to war its the same in the UK they want to send racist brexit english to fight we arent fighting i voted brexit to get the UK out of europe why the hell would i fight for europe

>>25550192 After brexit you started to import 3rd worlders not gayropeans. Smart move bro!! xDD

>>25548440 Many conservatives are tired of the endless forever wars. You are confusing them with neocons.

>>25548367 if russia was LGBT friendly I would be more inclined to fight russia

>>25550254 more polish people live in the UK since after brexit than before brexit

>>25550254 im going to ask you to stop replying to me, and stop being obsessed with the UK

>>25550254 i voted for brexit so i wouldnt have to deal with people like you constantly nipping at my ankles like the small dogs you are

They wanted war with panama and denmark last week.

>>25548502 in that case they were correct ww2 was a mistake

>>25548131 >I still have no idea what "right-" or "left-politics" are supposed to mean "left" means against Russians "right" means for the Jews

But you already understand how it is op. You already do. Whatever it is you call "right" wingers wouldn't want to give away "Alaska" if Russia invaded to have "piss"

>>25548110 >leftists are new bloodthirsty fascists Woah

>>25550385 Why do gypsies fantasize imaginary scenarios that not realistic? Are you high on lac again?

stop sperging out over nothing

>>25548131 Okay, I'm waiting for Trump to close all US bases around the world. It is pretty cynical to pretend playing the world police didn't benefit the USA in all those decades, that they are just doing for the "goodness of their hearts"

Cuckoldry, in fact, belongs properly to the left. I blame contrarianism.

>>25550417 you literary about to be drafted and go die in ww3

anti war in the sense of giving the USA half of its deposits, i.e. with the help of 100 billion, USA wants 500 billion or even more, even jewish banks dotn have such a commission and on top of that give it all away without any guarantees of safety

>>25550391 always have been

>>25548474 They're right to do that. CIA is a global terrorist org.

Same how pro-working class became right.

>>25548110 >Anti-war the moment Trump announces he wants to annex Canada all those (((anti-war))) trumpanzes quickly become pro-war and go enlist in the military ASAP

>>25548134 If you like war so much then go and die in it, subhuman. No need to waste lives of hohols instead with excuses how not being warmongering bloodthirsty scumbag serves Russian interests.

>>25556394 Trump government is cutting taxes again... working class is getting even more cucked although the demshits did nothing for them either I have to agree.

>>25548462 Why are you not in trenches, pidoran?

>>25548612 Why are you not in trenches, pigdog?

>>25556431 why arent you at work gypo?

>>25548907 1)Russia invaded nobody. 2)You are not on the frontline.

>>25556448 Why are you not in trenches, pigdog?

>>25550385 You are filthy gypsy robbing everyone. By your logic everyone should declare war to ROMAnia for thieft.

>>25556404 War with canada status, pigdog?

>>25556479 I can tell your lac status. It's HUFFED.

>>25548131 The Democrats are the right wing conservative establishment that defend the status quo and the left wing opposition to this are the republicans. The democrats have always been the party associated with the elites. It was the party of the slave owning aristocracy in the deep south, and it continues to this day to be the party of the eastern coast elites. The democrats are basically an alliance between the lumpenproletariat and the establishment against the meritocratic middle. Niggers, women, trannies etc are all workshy losers whose only purpose is to vote for things that benefit the establishment at the expense of the society as a whole. > Indeed, because it acted only out of socially ignorant self-interest, the lumpenproletariat was easily bribed by reactionary forces and could be used to combat the true proletariat in its efforts to bring about the end of bourgeois society. Without a clear class-consciousness, the lumpenproletariat could not play a positive role in society. Instead, it exploited society for its own ends, and was in turn exploited as a tool of destruction and reaction.

>>25548131 If your flag was green I might have believed you. Americans have always enjoyed playing world police.