good poland needs nukes maintenant

Who are we nuking?

It is completely safe to ignore everything macron sanchez or starmer have to say. Merz maybe a little bit, 80% safe.

>>25542874 why? isn't macron the european go-getter?

Europe is going to nuke each other into a giant crater for petty slights within the next twenty years

>>25542877 The fuck does that even mean

>>25542890 he says something = he wants to have it done not his fault that germonkeys weren't super keen on helping ukraine, he actually sent some french troops there didnt he

>>25542880 they will blame trump the whole time

>>25542880 if Pakistan and India has not nuked anyone i think we are fine. Just keep nukes away from Poland and Balkans

Nuclear arsenal is the only real way to sovereignty. All nations on earth should arm themselves with nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass destruction. If it doesn't happen the big empires will annex smaller countries to themselves and soon enough we'll have the world map of 1984.

>>25542894 There isnt a single example of him doing anything he "wanted" done. The only thing he will be associated with few years from now is yellow jackets and being married to a decrepit troon.

>>25542904 countries will just dig into underground and create mole megacities that you cant nuke

>>25542880 Didn't america almost launch nukes multiple times for retarded reasons and only avoided it do to insurrection of staff?

Fuck Macron, all the country hates him, it's not funny anymore

europe's future is french macron's vision of a latin-speaking, federalist, fully unified European Republic is coming true this is his moment, when he will propose the constitutional changes and ascend as the First European Presidency 1567 years of darkness will end!

>>25542940 EU have no future, it's only Nations

Sébastien Lecornu - Minister of the Armed Forces: https://x.com/SebLecornu/status/1895832390657822988 tldr; nuclear umbrella is not new but it's going to be extended

>>25542947 eu is the future whether you want it or not not in it's current degenerated stare though

>>25542947 Most Europeans would rather be together than apart. Inevitably, this forces a single unified government with a shared currency, treasury, and welfare. You are European, the blood of your roman ancestors in your veins, and the shackles imposed by American globo-homo have been removed. This is what your grandparents fought for in the world wars: a strong, secure, independent Europe.

>>25542963 This anthem is so cringe and gay, we need something new.

>>25542960 last time we had the opportunity to vote for or against this absolutely corrupted organisation, We said NO, guess what? we had it anyway

>>25542959 If Macron puts a new Federalist European Constitution to a vote in 2026 and wins, then the development of the EU from Maastricht Treaty to the European Constitution would identically mirror the development of the United states from the Articles of Confederation to the US Constitution. Macron would be it's John Adams. Europeans would literally be living in the most powerful country, ever, finishing what the Romans began.

>>25542921 No, I can't recall any examples of such. Given how the rest of the world loves to bitch about us non-stop you'd think such events would be brought up constantly. Unless you're referring to the other (was it multiple?) nukes we wanted to hit Japan with before they surrendered. But I don't think that situation fits your "insurrection of staff" description.

>>25542970 It's good but I agree that we need something better but it shouldn't be in English. I can accept french or Greek or Italian

today the news came out that France made a counteroffer to Poland for the construction of submarines they want to add naval cruise missile +1000km to submarines

>>25542981 Now they're just making up shit to bitch at us about.

>>25542975 post source t. Interested by the way France has very powerful commie/green politics and they push for this bullshit too You're doing this to yourselves

>>25542975 Sovereignist parties barrely get 2% at every presidential election. Their main leaders are either homosexual like Philippot or Asselineau or weirdos like Rougeyron.

Macron will *literally recreate the Roman Republic and French bernds itt are complaining and not enlisting.

>>25542983 New anthem just dropped: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWPjq1kLaQY

>>25542994 whom was the other offer from?

>>25543015 well I saw you post this image already but it seems BS I can't find it anywhere on the internet

>>25543013 thyssen krupp germany, fincatieri italy (literally the same submarine) navantia spain south korea sweden saab and france naval group

>>25543018 just google 2005 referendum, you fucking van der layen clown

>>25543020 best option is the swedish option for logic because they build submarines TYPICALLY for the baltic sea but now our experts are very excited because france wants to sell/give us technology for missiles +1000km also CEO of Airbus will arrive in Poland next week and Poland will become the 4th shareholder/country of Airbus after France, Germany and Spain

>>25543018 Not him but it's real. It's fallacious though, this referendum wasn't about staying or leaving the EU.

>>25542877 he's a populist, nothing he says is meaningful

>>25543024 So it wasn't a frexit vote but a constitution vote You manipulated me Anyway here's the thing. France could do shit about Ukraine because its safe. It already lost all the colonies and no one has serious claims on france so whatever. Same about basically every wect yoro country. France and Germany would be very happy to deal with Putin. So the way I see it eact Yuro is bettayed within the next 20 years

>>25543035 Is 1000 km enough to destroy st pidorsburg from our area of operation on the Baltic sea?

>>25543044 populists are popular, that's the definition, Macron is everything but popular

>>25543029 not a single shitskin

>>25543051 Indeed that's why he won the election

>>25543055 he won the election because the opponent was the NAZI DEVIL ON EARTH according to 100% of the medias, you should know how that work as a german

>>25543062 I was in france at that time so I know what the propaganda was like but I don't think he had no supporters. Yes he was the lesser good but it's not enough to win elections to just not be "the Nazi" It's obvious massive amounts of money were pumped into promoting him and he has probably the best PR department of any politician in Europe so what? Who do you think could fix france?

>>25543084 I meant lesser bad of course anyway you think le pen would have fixed any issues?

>>25543062 Because Marine Le Pen is also shit. I hope Jordan Bardella is going to replace her, women in politic are just bad in general. She never would be candidate if she wasn't the daughter of Jean-Marie anyway, she has serious skill issues.

>>25543097 No one wants to vote for women, not even women.

Also I don't get it why European far right is always putler ass licker Are they literally sponsored by him? I literally can't figure this out

>>25543105 Not in Latvia. Only Far left in Latvia is putler ass lickers. Right is always on the side of Europe and Latvia

>>25543109 but there was scandal where it turned out that a lot of sponsorship for our nationalists came from Russian government :D

>>25543109 I mean you'd have to be retarded to support purttin in Latvia I guess your far left Is post commies and Russians

>>25543050 even moscow

The western shores must be planted with nukes to protect against american aggression

They want money

Big if true.

>>25543232 russia numbers real? or pre ukraine war

>>25543105 When West Europe doesn't offer strong many leadership of course people will seek it elsewhere. Image matters, and almost every European leader leaves the impression of a weak soylent ridden accountant that really believes in nothing.

>>25543232 >China trained reservists 0,5 mil china dont have general conscription ?

>>25543232 >comparing a whole continent to one country

>>25543232 Americans on suicide watch from this video

>>25543232 This is only one side of the story. Most of weaponry are old in Europe. Plus,these conventional weapons are not worth much in modern warfare, and Europe has no high impact tacticals such as aircraft carrier, satellite weapons, etc

>>25543426 aircraft carriers are more a tool to loot turdworlds that cant hit them. Look how sharts in panic steamed away when Yemen got their hands on some anti ship missiles

What does it mean?

>>25543452 If a cunt attacks Germany, the cunt gets nuked by France.

>>25543463 this nigger missile going into space

>>25543463 Fronce, its Christmas soon, it would be nice if you gift us a few nukeys. How about 400?

>>25543500 Like i mean, i can also pay you if you want. We have some nice Anti aircraft missile systems and stuff....if you want.

>>25543500 I don't know how this nuclear umbrella will work but it will still be under French president decision to launch it or not anyway. I would be hilarious if we get money from this and it pays our debt.

>>25543570 Serious. Its either that or Germany is gonna build its own nukes.

>>25543579 Nigger you are not allowed

>>25543579 https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/merz-considers-extension-of-french-british-nuclear-umbrella-to-germany/ Your Kaiser already choose.

>>25543589 the krauts aren't getting our nukes, wtf.

>>25543587 Nigger, nobody cares. We gonna cancel the 2+4 anyways because we gonna rearm. So nukes are absolutely on the table here too.

>>25543604 We care. Just like Iran, you can't. We will stop you

>>25543609 If germany wants it could build nukes withhin the month. We have more than a few reactors that can produce weapons grade Plutonium.

>>25543619 *fact check: false* germany has zero operational reactors.

>>25543623 kek

>>25543609 You traitors just threw us to the dogs. Nobody gives a flying fuck what the americans want. We need protection. If you cant create it, we doing it ourselves.

>>25543628 you don't understand. You are still Germany. You cannot, and we vill see to it.

>>25543623 False. We have 6 reactors in use right now. None of them are for energy production :3

>>25543600 Sshhhhhh, calmn down, no debt anymore. Now you can neet all days, welfare is paid by German wagecuck bernd.

Now that the yanks thrown us to the russians with Budapest memorandum attaining toilet paper status and Belarus reaquiring nukes from Russia, nuclear nonproliferation is dead. >>25543633 >we vill see to it Now USA will have to worry about Mexico and Venesuella with nukes.

>>25543659 And canada too with all that talk about "51. state" lol.

>>25543659 >>25543666 budapest memorandum offered no security guarantees from the USA. Mexico and canada aren't a legitimate concern. A nuclear armed Germany is and should be a huge concern for the whole world. Have you all forgotten so soon?

>>25543675 I worry more about the US or Russia than Germany. They understood quite well after 2 defeats.

>>25543684 You'll never learn.

Warmonger tard doing warmonger things. Having nukes doesn't mean shit, the first Country to use it is fucked for good. It doesn't serve as a defensive mechanism cause you can't use it, and if you do it that would cause the death of millions.

>>25543675 Forget what? The nazis are all dead, fascism in germany is dead. Nobody wants to repeat these grave shameful errors of the past. While its still going very strong in the USA. Your president put his country on the side of north korea and russia.

>>25543698 The fear that you could kill millions if enough to stop nuclear nations from attacking each other.

>>25543705 is*

Eurosissies are still talking about Ukraine signing the mineral, they still hope the US can resolve the whole thing and they can all go back to sniffing farts and drinking piss beer. Europeans have only been good at generating background noise since the start of the war while the US has provided all the logistics and intelligence that allowed Ukraine to turn this into a long war of attrition instead of watching Russia take a new large city each month like at the beginning.

>>25543701 You've dumped fascism for something entirely more insane. Of course its getting worse by the day.

>>25543707 Only the brits are talking about that. The EU had emergency meetings about rearming and sending more shit to Ukraine.

>>25543708 >You've dumped fascism for something entirely more insane. What? Democracy?

>>25543711 Our Democracy™ brand of democracy, if you want to call it democracy at all. If the AfD becomes a real threat to power, it will be banned.

>>25543105 >Are they literally sponsored by him Yes. But they'd probably gravitate to a pro-Russian stance regardless simply because it's the contrarian thing to do.

>>25543722 Well they are already quite a threat. Also They are under investigation because they are full of neo nazis that want to go against our constitution lol. You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>25543731 Also they are paid by russia mostly. And most of their plans is to make themselves vasalls to russia.

>>25543731 Wait a minute, fren.. how are all the fascists dead if your country is full of practicing neo-nazies? Remember just a few posts ago? >Forget what? The nazis are all dead, fascism in germany is dead. Nobody wants to repeat these grave shameful errors of the past. Now there is a huge looming threat of nazis such that you might have to ban a whole political party that violates the constitution that says democracy is illegal if you don't think a specific way You cannot have nukes, you people are fucking insane.

>>25543426 > aircraft carrier Only needed for naval power projection. Not an issue when your opponent is Russia. Maybe if it's the US.

>>25543722 Lol, the AfD is not even close to what exists in eastern European government. >>25543709 Just hide this clueless retard.

>>25543658 germans are poor, they have too many dependents already. I guarantee they want this for free, just like they want it from USA for free. in all seriousness, I think we would have the same questions the americans have, of are the germans even worth defending? I know we have bad freedom laws lack of free speech and such, but our government got in with 19% of the electorate because of the fake conservative problem and low turnout. germans have high turnout and vote 80% for parties that want more migration of muslims, more crack down on dissent, more tranny shit. it's like siding with iran against the taliban.

>>25543743 >>25543743 around 4% or so have voted right wing/radical parties in germany before the AfD came into power. These retards kinda took control of the early AfD and are now trying to get votes via voter frustration about migration questions.

>>25543757 Are you on drugs m8?

Fuck it, EVERYBODY gets nukes. Let's have a real true WW3.

>>25543776 no one is getting nukes. france will just try to scam EU into paying for their nuclear program.

>>25543776 Why are you complaining? Your president wanted Europe to pay more for its defence. We get more nukes, you dont have to pay for our defence anymore. Or your bases because we gonna kick you out :3

>>25543767 That's the problem with you lot. You'll go to the extremes with this crazy weimar shit, and then you'll rebound like a rubber band and go full blown insane against. Everyone loves a Germany that is cute and sweet and unarmed, but when you fuckers get serious the whole world quakes. Take it as a compliment, but you can't have nukes.

>>25543786 Its a little bit too late for that.

>>25543792 Maybe it is, time will tell

>>25543792 >>25543795 Germany is not considering having nukes anyway, this discussion is pointless.

jupiter by monday

Every European country needs nukes Imagine Albania with nukes, would be ebin

Can i trade this for Nooks to Latvia?

>>25544402 youre 25% russian fuck off

>>25544407 you are island slav

>>25542873 USA and USSR

>>25544402 >kohlsnail isn't rea-- ack

>>25542921 Maybe Nixon tried when he was drunk, but no. The stories are usually Soviet like Vasili Arkhipov or Stanislav Petrov

>>25543105 >Are they literally sponsored by him? Yes. Also none of them are really far right.

>>25543786 >Take it as a compliment, but you can't have nukes. Why are you acting as if you still were in the discussion?

i wish, charles de surrender 2.0 thinks war is when you talk big

>>25544781 bernd can finally have his dick sucked