It's not about the money. If anything, it's either about Trump wanting a green light to do the same Russia did (maybe with Greenland or the Panama canal), or about trying to fuck China by partnering with Russia.

But the at same time, if US refuses to play this role of protecting allies – this will inevitably lead more countries to have nuclear weapons. Which, okay, the world won't be less safe if Japan or South Korea had one. But what if Turkey had one? What if Saudi Arabia had one? Which at the long term would be bad to everyone, including US. When in 2047 some terrorist group explode small nuclear weapon in New York that they stolen from Uganda.

"muh peace" and "muh spendings" are cheap propaganda tricks. The goal of musk's administration is to get as much power as possible while removing any constraints both domestically and abroad.

>>25537745 Por que no los dos? Why can't Trump buy Greenland and seize the Panama Canal whilst paying pennies to irritate Russia? > trying to fuck China by partnering with Russia. This is the only reason to try and force a peace treaty I think. I suppose there may be hidden discussions we aren't privy to about China's capabilities which the US wants Russia to help counter.

>>25537725 Britain eager to start another world war, after starting WW1 and 2.

why do you think?

>>25537773 Do these countries posess the capabilities to obtain and enrich nuclear material though? But I do think it's a good time to buy shares in non-American defence companies as well as mining companies. Governments round the world will now consider de-Americanising their military supply chains. >>25537780 How does pulling out of a relatively cheap war achieve that?

>>25537815 It will show voters that "we can solve problems, unlike those libs", so they can get popular support while dismantling the state. They don't care about strategic questions, they're out of their scope.

>>25537773 Hideo Kojima has been right about everything

US spent 0.6% of its GDP. Denkmark spent 2.2% of its GDP on Ukranian aid. More than 3 times. Also the orange baby in the white house should stop trying to buy greenland.

I have to deboonk myself. Russia has spent about as much as Ukraine has on their side of the war. Other estimates include loss of economic activity as 'war costs' which isn't a fair direct comparison. >>25537847 I suppose you're right. I think the war not being instantly won by Ukraine doesn't tickle the instant-gratification button in the Trumpian brain - so they shouldn't pay for it. Pull out of the war to solve a problem that the shitlibs started and carry on elsewhere.

Him, acktchewalley, the REAL problem is not enough ukrainians being killed and aid must flow immediately so that they can get back to dying for a few millimetres of land here and there.

40B pretty much destroyed all of rushkas reserves, it was money well spent, despite clearly being not enough

We can find millions of reasons on why they want peace but one of the main reasons - if not the most important one - is that the USA won't have a white/European majority soon. You can argue it's the same in Western Europe but we are not this bad, even in France, and we share the same continent anyway.

Project Ukraine must be terminated so that the resources are free for Project Iran. The USA can't run two projects simultaneously anymore.

Umm, but what about trannies?

>>25537980 That's bullshit. They can easily afford to have a war on three fronts, which will inevitably happen as there's increasing difficulty within their own backyard.

the original deal was that both sides invest annually 40 billions in the war and bring their best weapon tech to the battlefield the idea was that there's no point of doing full scale conflict, just do the test run and find out who will ultimately lose wectern side lied about the amount of forces they bring in, grossly overinflated their spending by claiming they're paying the officials salaries, and still lost the war now the choice is, whether wect would accept they've lost, or scale up the conflict, hoping for the miracle all while no white men wants to fight for the wect, and they would much prefer to move to Russian refugee program, getting free 2,4 acres of land on term, that they should use it and they will own it in 5 years only if they've built a house or a business on that land +2,4 acres extra for every group member, up to 10 people in a group there are also preferential loans for basically state-funded business development so their choice would be to move to Russia and work for allbeit flawed, but still white Christian nation, till the war ends, after which they can choose to stay or go, or die for nazi troons and nazi niggers, that tax them for the rain, because it can be used as a free shower

>>25537985 wow, the Left can't meme.

Because usanians are trumpist niggers who just listen to the first thing that other nigger trump supporters support

>>25537909 262.8 is quite a bit more, than 200-estimate of the hypercancer nigger, that he used to justify his violation of the limited manner of war agreement while in fact Russia has spent 40 annually, as was agreed originally, which is 120 total

So by your logic (and the logic of neocons and democrats in america) is that we fund a war that ultimately kills millions and costs trillions so that we can weaken Russia while completely destabilizing the world and sending us all headlong into potential WWIII (I know I know, they won't do shit blah blah) The alternative is that we try to end it. And you're arguing for the former. I guess the best way to put it to you is that there is a large section of the USA population who aren't thirsty for blood and who disagree with Iraq, Vietnam, etc deep state wars that put lives in danger for petty regional power plays. Of course there is a large section of the USA who agrees with you too. We consider those people evil.

>>25537725 > Why does America want peace? Probably because Blackrock, Vanguard etc. have bought all the land and assets they wanted so no the war can stop. It's that simple.

>>25538593 >no *now

Tldr Trump is a Goy whos main job is to end Ukraine War and redirect US spending to Israel. We all know it. He got one of biggest donos in President history. From some billionaire Jewish American buisness woman from Miami. Billionaire Asians don't dono $100m so USA hells China. But jews I guess work hard together for the tribe.

>>25537940 The bigger cost for Russia is cancelled future arms sales now that their equipment is shown to be directly inferior to out-of-date NATO tech.

Obviously Israel commands USA to gib more money. Sorry, Ukraine, but greatest ally needs it more

One is a backassward swamp that can’t project power outside of it. The other is a country that can. The massive inflation is a cost of the war. If you actually understand money. Which none of you do. Be that inflation is a literal tax. They are taxing the fuck out of the system to pay for it. You were all just educated by Gypsies apparently because none of you understand a lot of things you should know if you’re a poster on a Chan.

>>25540378 Can't comment for bongland, but that 'meme' does not hold true for us

Because it was the right thing to do.

>>25537725 >2. This war is pretty cheap to run. So why bother to pull out? BC all leftists need to die, the EU needs to be destroyed and a new right-wing world order must be created and all of you subhuman filth is to be eradicated. The Taliban were the good guys btw.

EU should just pick up the tab in exchange for an exclusive minerals deal with Ukraine, it's a no-brainer. Trump is handing us world domination on a platter and we're too retarded to take it.

>>25540447 With what guns? You guys worship Coca-Cola trucks instead.

>>25540399 Naw, Ukraine aid isn't causing inflation. Corrupt system does

>>25540425 But right wing is the opposite of taliban and russia. Right wing means free economy

>>25537745 >or about trying to fuck China by partnering with Russia. What role do you think Russia plays in the international economy? If sanctions are dropped on Russia that's actually a GOOD thing for China since it'll result in more trade for them. If you think Russians are going to significantly increase the import of F-150's or American soy and corn you're delusional. >>25540399 >The massive inflation is a cost of the war. If you actually understand money. Which none of you do. Be that inflation is a literal tax. They are taxing the fuck out of the system to pay for it. Military spending typically has a multiplier effect though. For the average bumpkin in fly over country it's not necessarily the most regressive tax, Trump's tariffs are the opposite and actually increase prices in a way that result in decreased economic activity that will cause job losses.

>>25537725 >let's have a war because it's cheap Do you people even think about what you're posting?

>>25540456 It is causing inflation. And the amount is more than the actual money being given. We are paying more so we don’t buy Russian buckwheat and such.

>>25540457 Right-wing means disenfranchising women and creating a hierarchical society in which all left-wing worms are crushed. Taliban are more free market then the whole EU btw.

>>25540468 Lets continue the war because its cheap and that way we can still possibly screw over Russia How about that revision?

>>25540468 Don't call them people, they are less then that.

>>25540474 No, that's being an authoritarian. We shouldn't have to drag you through the annals of history to tell you why authoritarianism is bad. Right wing= free economy.

>>25540472 >It is causing inflation. And the amount is more than the actual money being given. We are paying more so we don’t buy Russian buckwheat and such. How is exporting money more inflationary than domestically spending it? If Trump stops sending money to Ukraine and deposits it into Americans bank accounts how would that lower the price of eggs?

capitalism = cancer

>>25540482 authoritarianism = good

>>25540488 It can be good when we agree with the despot like when Mr Hitler was in power. But its not repeatable success.

>>25540483 War is good for the economy

>>25540482 Authoritism which we live in is good if you’re in power. Otherwise it’s not. Simple as. Don’t try these good goy tricks on Gaysee.

>>25540494 Which is why it's non repeatable success

>>25540491 I have never agreed with the democratic populous in any time or place.

>>25540496 My views on America are fuck the system burn it to the ground. Fuck all this other nonsense. I don’t give a fuck about some free hotdog day funded by the system for me.

>>25540505 Adolf was elected

>>25540508 My views are you can go back to Mexico

>>25540515 He was too soft on women and his war goals were stupid.

>>25540519 No hablo Englase faggoto

>>25540468 It's not > let's have a war It's > let's help others fight this war because they fight our enemy + they test your military equipment and increase arms sales to others who see it being used to defeat your competitors military equipment. So it may even be profitable. If I give an army 10,000 guns for free and they win a war, maybe I can sell 50,000 guns and make more money than I ever lost from donating guns.

>>25540652 >they fight our enemy Russia is a friend, the EU is the enemy.