germans killed civilians

>>25514742 Thats awfully vague.

>>25514749 Slavs are considered subhumans by nazis. In general pln ost they attempted to genocide most of slavs anyway.

>>25514749 You're awfully stupid.

>>25514758 >general pln ost Fan fiction tier

>How exaclty poland lost a third of their population during the war? Mostly trough the extermination of Russians that wa going on since 1917, and the 1939 has let poles legalize it, pinning the blame on "germans". Another big factor was the Judenrat (colonial ministry of Reich) resettling Jews to Palestine. Jews where not happy to live in the quite peculiar tovianist cult (basically a very retarded version of BLM-fascism)-controlled former part of the Russian Empire, that tried to destroy it's own history and replace it with total wewuzing so most of them where happy to move, except most of them wanted to move to america, and Judenrat and Zionists wanted them to move to their newly established colony

>>25514742 Uhhh, but KC told me they just went around handing out chocolates and helping old ladies cross the street

Its not 1/3 but almost 1/5. The 'holcaust' had 6 millions jews die but the WW2 had millions and millions of others die, 6 million also dead polands. I don't know if that includes da jooz but all the famous camps were in Poland. Basically Germans they savage.

>>25514767 Nazi revisionist subhuman was not asked.

>>25514758 I used to think like this, but it seens to me that germans wanted to germanize these people the same way that happened to prussians (who never were germans in first place). Curbing polish idendity was just an egg to break in the proccess. >>25514770 So you claim is that there were large ammounts of russians living on poland and they made a big bulk of polish casualities on the war? What do you refer to "tovianist cult"?

>>25514790 all death camps were in soviet occupied territories

>>25514814 russki is making things up. never listen to them talking about history because it's all revanchism and revisionism

>>25514738 Both Russians and Germans started to remove the potential troublemakers such as doctors, professors, nobles and scientists from premises also other smart poles. That's why they are such a degenerate mess today. Many just starved in 44 and 45 because German food economy was doomed from the first year and Poles were low on priority of food distribution. A bit of Dirlewanger mixed in with a lot of anti-partisan revenge actions and Communist Poles fighting in human wave tactics in soviet army and you have your numbers.

>>25514814 They never wanted it. They wanted lebensraum and they exterminated slavs for it. That is why USSR lost 27 million people. Nazis were massmurdering civilians.

>>25514832 Hohol seadigger was not asked.

>>25514854 Well, bolsheviks passed 20 years saying they would steamroll europe till they reached lisbon, im not surprised germans were tired of their shit long before the war started. Reasons to be butthurt at polish people, however? I cant see none.

we lost 2 mln catholic poles rest i dont care

>>25514868 > Well, bolsheviks passed 20 years saying they would steamroll europe That is some nazi fanfic propaganda. But I am not surprised that talking monkey would parrot it.

>>25514879 Nah, even leftist propaganda movies openly talks about this. Olga was a jewish soviet spy who was sent to brazil and got used as a tool for the local govern to implement a dictatorship btw. She got deported to germany before the war started and allegatelly died on a gas chamber. These pesky people were everywhere back then. The fact that western world allied itself with soviet union against the germans should tell you how much control they have inside countries like united states or great britain.

>>25514886 Last time I checked nazi subhumans actively ran to wect and south america to avoid punishment for their terrorist activities in USSR so you excuses are irrelevant.

>>25514893 Well, german sacrifice worth it for the rest of the planet; so many russians goys have died that soviet union had to retreat to a diplomatic instance instead openly saying they would export the revolution everywhere. At some sense, i guess this is why jews were so pissed off at nazists, they ruined their plans. They werent supposed to fight against such adamant group of people, germany was just a demoralized collapsed country before the national socialists took over.

>>25514868 >Well, bolsheviks Nobody really cared because they let them win in Russia, and as a degenerate regime, it was preferable to German victory. >Reasons to be butthurt at polish If you lived near poles, you wouldn't need to ask. But if you really need explanation, poles are sort of like German Ukraine, and Baltics combined. While they seem like friends today(ha-ha, no), they were more antagonistic back in the day. There's a reason why Putin said Poland started WW2. >>25514886 >The fact that western world allied itself with soviet union against the germans should tell you how much Germans were disliked. It was never about soviet union, they allied with it because they stood less to lose in it's victory, and exploited the Russians. Soviet influence should properly be called jewish influence, THAT is the reason for backroom dealing. And yes, west happily gobbled up nip and germ military and eggheads guilty of war crimes no problem. I assume it's just the policy about globably weakening Europe.

>>25514814 >So you claim is that there were large ammounts of russians living on poland and they made a big bulk of polish casualities on the war? The situation in poland was very similar to 2014 ukraine. Except in 1917 bolshevik political program was to free "nations" from the Russian Empire's "oppressive rule". They were calling Empire "prison of nations(peoplers)". Upwards from 1000 Orthodox Churches was destroyed in Poland as part of what they claim to be their anti-communist struggle of 1917-1939. The losses made in process of genociding Russian population were written off as "germans killed our civilians" at the first opportunity. But not just germans. Another big case of poles killing Russians was pinned on Russians. The exposition is: - Russian Empire's infantry, especially the officer corps, was greatly consisting of people coming from the territory of Privislinsky Krai (real name of poland). - And the Czechoslovakia was the main host for Bolshevism refugees of the Empire. So what happened is: In 1938, poland junta started the WW2 by attacking Czechoslovakia. And of course infantry HQ was full of people, who refused to attack Czechoslovakia on the side of their WW1 enemy (Reich). Enemy, that has poisoned many of the "polish" towns with gasses, leading to absolute horrific and indiscriminate losses, and very gruesome traumas among the soldiers too. The world had to invent "spanish flu" to finish off people who were suffering from chemical weaponry injuries. Many young men, who had half of their lungs burned and half of their internal organs turned barely functional by the chemical poison. Who, if left to live, could only struggle in pain for decades. Were finished off and their deaths were declared to be a super-duper-convenient-flu. Back to the timeline of events: Poland established the concentration camp in Katyn at the time. The camp was taken over by nazis. Then it was taken over by advancing USSR army. Then, in the 90s, poles found the bodies of the officers. And claimed it was the Russians who killed them, without any research. Again jumping on the zeitgeist-opportunity, when an ukrainian nationalist Yeltsin was a president of the Russian Federation. A person, that gladly signed Russians up to polish accusations. How they say: "capitalism" is privatization of profits and nationalization of losses. Then communism in Europe is privatization of the stolen Russian wealth and foreign nationalization of the Russian deaths. Reminds me of how they've stolen Russian assets in the wectern banks. It's nothing new really.

>>25514913 >had to retreat to a diplomatic instance instead openly saying they would export the revolution everywhere Fake news. USSR stopped having global revolution speeches exactly after Stalin took power and violently booted trotskists, who were comprising the most of Komintern. >At some sense, i guess this is why jews were so pissed off at nazists, they ruined their plans By what, losing the war and forever cucking themselves into oblivion? Germans played right into their hands, turning everyone against them and culling their best parts. And that's assuming Quitler wasn't actually a pawn. >They werent supposed to fight against such adamant group of people Are we talking about Russians or Germans here?

>>25514913 >macaco delusions Come back when you find some facts instead of parroting nazi propaganda. Besides that, you asked why nazis are massmurdering subhumans. You were given answers. Your further excuses for them being a bunch of savage terrorists are irrelevant.

>>25514925 I have to ask, where exactly do you come across this information?

>>25514946 Poles massmurdering Russian pows in the beginning of 20th century was real btw.

>>25514868 >bolsheviks passed 20 years saying they would steamroll europ well not really the "Russian" revolution zeitgeist was built around the notion, that Russian Empire is "the Gendarme of Europe" and "Suppressor of Revolutions" this meme was heavily propagandized at least since defeat of Napoleon and the idea was that if Russians would be strategically defeated, all kinds of social progress will happen, mainly in Europe but somewhy, after "Russian" "revolution", sponsored by proto-USAIDS, no revolutions and no social progress happened anywhere so... Bolsheviks where not saying they would steamroll anyone, they where expecting the wect to fulfill their publicly made promises on the social progress, now then, that "Gendarme of Europe" ceased to exist of course being the collective pan-european proto-USAIDS cancer, bolsheviks acted as their new owners proxy in many conflicts only in 1937 anglo agents of the Bolshevik-AIDS regime started to exterminate foreign agents, affiliated with anyone but the Anglos, resulting in the emergence of the USSR that you know today a much more militant entity, since Russians are the genetic Gendarmes of Europe and there was no point for the Anglo colonial managers to not use this trait of ours originally they wanted to use us against USA for mutual nuclear extermination, but luckily the plan was dropped it's unclear to me why though

Never happened. Our great friend Hitler removed the Jewish menace from Poland and our other great friend Stalin liberated us from the deranged lumpen-aristocratic feudal elite remnants still holding onto vestiges of their 16th century social status. No Poles were harmed in the process.

>>25514946 from reading a lot and analyzing the consumed information i'm not a professional historian, so i would not give you a document signed by Lunacharsky and "i did it" written on top

>>25514995 A lot of what, exactly? Not that I doubt you, but I want to know at least some of the sources to read myself.

>>25514925 let me guess, the source of all that info is some rusisan nationalist site? like russian wiki article on Poles collaborating with nazis, citing some 1998 looking far right russian website?

>>25514995 >from reading a lot absolute sigma

>>25515004 >the source poisoning the well i see

Stop arguing with the gypsy If you ignore him he'll kill himself sooner

>>25515002 >A lot of what, exactly? mostly wikipedia

>>25515006 > you made it up except i didn't

>>25514930 No, my question was more specific. How exactly polish casualities developed on the course of the conflict. Nobody seemed to answer it. Its not argued if it was either by artillary barrages, hunger, winter, exaustive labour or cold assassinations. It seens nobody bothered to register this, which is odd.

>>25515004 > Poles collaborating with nazis, Do pshexcrements still deny that?

>>25515014 It is not registered only in your macaco heda. IRL, nazi genocidical policies are well documented.

>>25515013 >deny making it up >provide no proofs incel-sigma mix tbh >>25515016 quiet gypsy, this is discussion for non-retarded only

>>25514925 in the russian part of the partitions many Catholic churches in Warsaw, Bialystok, vilnius etc. were changed to orthoDOGS churches we had to change them back/destroy them cuz we were not orthoDOG country

>>25515023 If it was so, then you wouldn’t be a part of it, pshexcrement. It is funny how pshexcrements still deny collaborating with hitler and dividing chechoslovakia with him.

>>25515021 Ah yes, documents. >this telegraph asking a replacement piece of an exaust fan proves that gas chambers were real

>>25515038 Too bad they did not destroy all craptolic “churches” as retaliation.

>>25514925 >1938 czechoslovakia >we agree with czechs that there will be a plebiscite there >hordes of asians/bolsheviks attack us in 1919/1920 so the army goes to fight them >at the same time czech troops WITHOUT a plebiscite occupy zZaolzie where 90% of the population are Poles >in 1938 we regain only these areas and dont take even one czech village /in total 3 small towns and several villages

>>25515046 >macaco is butthurt about reality not fitting its fantasy copeworld Not my problem.

>>25515054 for a Pole, being orthoDOG is a civilizational leap backwards

>>25514738 Third Reich and Sovok were totalitarian genocidal regimes. They started purges after occupation. "Just surrender to avoid casualties" does not work with such countries.

>>25515055 >pshexcrement makes more silly excuses for collaborating with hitler and dividing chechoslovakia Lmao, btw, USSR tried to stop hitler back then but his greatest ally pshekistan did not allow it.

>>25515063 Yet you surrendered to ussr. You are self contradicting.

>>25515062 Pshexcrement and civilisation do not fit together.

>>25515016 peculiarly enough it all falls apart on the obvious facts like hitler-pilsudsky pact, that they try to deny after putting it on the wikipedia, hoping to succeed in the denial, because it's not a widely known propagandized fact like the molotov-ribbentrop is but it's impossible to deny in the era of the hyperinformation, when anyone can read it in just a few clicks recently we had a discussion with french on their failure to fulfill their obligation of mutual defense pact, that USSR had with Czechoslovakia with French-USSR mutual defense pact having clause to protect any third party having mutual-defense treaties with one of the parties if French would follow their obligations, and defend Czechoslovakia in 1938, or at least in 1939, by attacking Germany, Reich project would be fucked over even faster than it was fucked over in 1914 as Reich would not even have the tanks, since most of the Reich's military machinery was produced on Czechoslovakian factories Slavs where the main productive force of the habsburg empire, and after dismantling the austro-hunnery (notice absence of slavs in the name), all the factories where left mostly in the lands currently known as Czechia but of course since all the French agents in USSR-AIDS were exterminated by agents with a single anglo-affiliation in 1937-1938 "great purge", french refused to honor their signatures on those treaties

>>25515062 why are you even arguing with a self-admited retard?

>>25515070 fortunately the Poles and Czechs are able to admit their mistakes and we surpassed each other and decided that it was better to defend ourselves together Russians, dumb orthoDOG nation, cannot admit their mistakes in the case of Ukraine, where 1 million orthoDOG people died

>>25515070 >>25515070 fortunately the Poles and Czechs are able to admit their mistakes and we apologized to each other and decided that it was better to defend ourselves together Russians, dumb orthoDOG nation, cannot admit their mistakes in the case of Ukraine, where 1 million orthoDOG people died

>>25515086 > Poles and Czechs are able to admit their mistakes >meanwhile pshexcrements itt still deny collaborating with hitler and jump in to whataboutism instead Sure, lmao.

>>25515092 Poles have honor and we had nothing to do with totalitarian regimes 2 million Polish Catholics died because of Hitler and Stalin russians orthoDOGS ppl praise stalin who murdered tens of millions of russians you are a nation of slaves

They were turned into meat for hamburgers. Same way Boo did to create chocolates out of human beings.

Now they are licking USA feet and considers America to be its greatest ally.

>>25515023 >provide no proofs there are photographic proofs of destroyed Russian churches and it's literally on wikipedia, famous for being the Russian nationalist site the proofs you've provided so far is that you're biased and just want to poison the well if asked about the current special military operation, you'd tow the same line, wanting me to give you the timeline of described events from the wectern media, that is nothing but military wartime propaganda, and claiming the media is invalid, if it doesn't appease your sense of grandiose delusion you have definitely proven that you have no integrity and the best anyone can expect from you is Gish Gallop that is when you accuse everyone around you in various stuff, not caring about the consistency of your accusations, and it's the job of the accused to explain to the third party watching that there's no consistency then you'd throw in another incoherent accusation and claim that the opponent can only make excuses and with enough bullshit you can argue in circles funnily enough, Marx's Capital is nothing but a Gish Gallop bullshit compilation to throw at Russians in a typical 19th century discussion

>>25515101 >Poles have honor Ah, yes, honour. Poles have very specific form of "honour" that became a noun in itself for being completely unrelated to actual honour.

>>25515101 >pshexcrements >honor It is not a joke thread. Stop derailing it.

>>25515055 > 20 years ago polish surname bolshevik "attacked" poland to lose the war despite having 50 times larger army > that's somehow a valid excuse to attack Czechoslovakia and they would not mind against it, because there are plebians are you supposed to be a royal in your mind? did you know, that "pole" in the name of your country comes as slavic name for the steppes and the steppe people who was ruling over you was asiatic Sarmat Szlachta, that created pan-european brand "slave" by selling your ancestors to the wect, with the board of the business made of Ottomans and Swedes working on logistics of the whole operation and it was all going on, till Peter I kicked the karl 12 teeth in which was very illiberal and unprogressive of us peasants

>>25515141 >americans literally killed and crippled 1mln russian orthoDOGS by the hand of ukrainians >americans trick russians that they are their friends and wants "reset" for 10th time in a row since 1990 >russians forget about these victims and worship americans again you are a nation of slaves

>>How exaclty poland lost a third of their population during the war? Massive emigration. They went to the West (France, England, USA) and East (Russia) In addition they killed or deported some 16 million Germans.

>>25515188 >pshexcrement turned in to more butthurt screech Ok

>>25514738 Problem is how poles behave. They provoke armed people and wonder why they get killed.

>>25515101 >Poles have honor sure thing, some do a lot do in fact many thousands of ethnic Russian soldiers were taken home by Polish women after WW2, claiming they were their (deceased) husbands and sons, so that they would not have to leave to RSFSR concentration camp it was especially easy to pull off, since Polish language for 97% of the population before 1917 was literally not different from Russian, you could tell someone is "polish" from the accent and mannerisms, but not from their grammar and the langauge you are currently speaking originates from the wectmost region of privislinsky krai dialect, with pride of the region being built on nothing else, than them living closer to the infalliable wect, and no real achievement you can check it up by yourself in the historic "polish" books so anyway... those women had honor you on the other hand have no honor or integrity whatsoever

>>25514758 >Slavs are considered subhumans by nazis.

I have come to the conclusion that it is biologically impossible for a human to hold a discussion with a Russian, the judeochekist genetic experiment somehow devolved them back to some form of bicameral thinking where two independent personae somehow compete for control of the same body, and what's weirder, they're both convinced they're the only one.

super based poles used this opportunity to kill off their jews

>>25515198 >In addition they killed or deported some 16 million Germans. > super based poles used this opportunity to kill off their jews

>>25515203 >argumentum ad pesonam typicall orthoDOG denial

Name one country that won more by losing.

>>25515212 >nazi propaganda fanfic In to le trash…

>>25515212 >germans created waffen ss gorelvolk >4 people signed up not 40, not 400, but 4 ppl

>>25515233 >pshexcrement screech Still irrelevant.

1. lost a lot of land, german land gained was emptied 2. polish uprising near end 3. polish jews all fleeing to israel and ussr with polish wealth

>>25515211 orthoDOG prattle

>>25515237 >>25515212 >nazi propaganda fanfic >The proofs prove nothing MKAY

>>25515252 >nazi propaganda fanfic >proofs Kek

>>25515252 Katyn was done by nazis btw.

>>25515279 again slavic betreyal by orthoDOGS mongol hordes

>>25515292 >pshexcrement butthurt over soviets not stoping nazis Not my problem. Should have let USSR stop nazis in 1938.

>>25515248 > lalala im not listening

>>25515326 making up some cuckold stories and dehumanizing women of a random nation is pathetic especially by fucking russian ball hillarious

>>25515654 >think of the women Pshexcrement pöaying victim again, lmao.

>>25515672 orthoDOG mongoloid seethe

>>25515688 >pshexcrement CRAPtholic angry ramble

Poles probably decided to fight against each other over which of the sides that double-teamed them was better I know too that they misjudged the advance of the red army and tried to launch a revolt way before they arrived which caused the death of many polelings in a classic poland moment

>>25515757 Russian salary on the map is provided after taxes. In reality Russian salary would be slightly below polish salary. Yet if we count in the prices for the same stuff aka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_basket price, then median Polish salary would be 30% less than Russian one. in fact it would be even less, since most of the polish salaries are coming from the foreign toilet cleaning operations, and they're counted in polish stats, but price of basic amenities in the regions they're earning them at, are noticeably expensiver not to mention, local polish salaries are paid from an ever increasing loan, not from profit, since the only profit they can expect has two sources 1. scraping industry built for them on Russian expense in exchange for gibs, and this source practically depleted by now 2. taxing Russian gas pipe, which is also pretty much depleted, since, thanks to Trump, we are trading LNG now trough american LNG terminals, increasing the price of the same gas more than 3-fold, and also having an opportunity to sell it all across the EU shores, not just to Germany, and most importantly — going around the butthurt belt, whose only idea of earning anything is taxing Russian exports

>>25515907 Czechs tried to pull the same move, organizing an uprising at least a week before Red army could possibly help them. They did it in advance, so that they would be able to claim they've liberated themselves and din du need non Russians. Except Czech uprising was a successful one, because instead of any Czechs it was ROA fighting against the nazis. Poles had no ROA dying for their cause, so they're not pretending they've won all by themselves without any Russians involved, like Czechs do. But pretend that Russians betrayed them by Soviet command not wanting to move the front line forward without the necessary preparations, like building up the supply lines and accumulating reserves. The fuck they were expecting starting the uprising at all, instead of waiting for Soviets to bring in capable Russian forces, is beyond their ability to produce a coherent explanations. Basically they've thrown tens of thousands of civilians in a meat grinder just to affirm their grandiose delusions. Which is a typical Tovianist¹ cultist behavior. ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrzej_Towia%C5%84ski

>>25514854 >Nazis were massmurdering civilians. *were going to but they didnt get the chanse. tue casualties that happened anyway were due to soviet mismanagement, a conscious strategy to get a strategic advantage by not valuing individual human lives and general hardships of war time

>>25515211 >and the langauge you are currently speaking originates from the wectmost region of privislinsky krai dialect yes but thats only due to occupation by r*ssian empire and influx of people from r*ssian empire, before r*ssian empire they all spoke that language, so them speaking it now is just returning to their roots

>>25515953 >price of basic amenities in the regions they're earning them at, are noticeably expensiver lol your mind is filled with stale memes. food is less expensive in germany than in poland

>>25514742 Buffer state between to real powers was returned to it's owners Must sting huh cuck?

>>25514742 Buffer state between two real powers was returned to it's owners Must sting huh cuck?