he is basically obama

I totally understand they're point when talking about Europe paying for defence, we can't expect the US to protect us forever.

the Kellogg dude was very funny, he was just here to speak with the idiots and he was thrown away when shit began to be serious

Yeah, because jews would throw dirt at their biggest advocate.

>>25442473 I'm totally fine with spending more in defense but when has the US army intervened to defend any NATO country?

ye, not a bad choice of Trump. might as well be the next president in 2029. And then again in 2033. Imagine these politics going on until 2037, USA might actually be able to turn everything around.

>>25442499 They threw rocks at serbia once

>>25442503 he is an indian nationalist

>>25442509 >>25442472 working overtime, eh. don't forget to bill the weekend surcharge.

>>25442499 lol it was never about defense and all about our leaders being little bitches

>>25442517 india even got 0% tariffs from trump

>>25442523 From Obama. You just said he is basically Obama, please try to make your posts with a minimum of coherency, even if they are all blatant lies.

>the biggest threat that europe faces is free speech on twitter I don't think Free Speech is a core European value that is shared with the USA. There is no first amendment here. It's similar to how people were saying that Tolerance is a core European value some years ago when the whole of European history is massacring each other because of intolerance.

>>25442532 Obama literally said same about eurpean defence strategy and he shifted focus from europe same as trump/vance doing and to lesser extent biden who kept tariffs imopsed on european union from first trump term.

>>25442535 Yeah, Voltaire, shmoltaire, the real European values are written in the Middle Easte!

>>25442520 I'd wager if the USA pulled the plug and stopped trying to influence or direct European politics, Europe would fall apart.

>>25442562 yep, and rightly so, we never agree on anything anyway.

JD stands for Jewish Dick he's a faggot kike tool married to a poopjeet

>>25442461 He's a boyfucker, at best a common faggot.

>>25442610 >>25442587 shills in overdrive this evening

>>25442535 The problem is shitstain countries like yours think they have anything to add in what Western civilization is really about

>>25442620 This is what passes for European patriotism

>>25442757 this is what passes for sex in russia

>>25442620 He has the look and wears mascara. That's a genuine faggot. Also: Death to tyrants, Death to America, Death to Russia. He shouldn't be allowed to set foot on European soil and this whole thing is bullshit.

Europe is a joke with its weak-willed leaders.

>>25442914 Close the borders, stop Amerifag migrants!

What made you think he was based

>>25442620 That "croatian" is gaytex under proxy

Leftists are losing.

braidead shills are broken, vance is based as fuck

Full speech btw

>>25442499 Cyprus is still under occupation.

>>25443036 I think that's the sanest speech I've ever heard.

>>25443186 for the EUSSR nomenklatura it's a declaration of war

>>25442473 It's fine, as long as they withdraw from their bases in Europe and lose access to Frankfurt.

>>25442578 Better than the two party system in you-know-where

>>25443186 Mostly agree. Found the abortion stuff off-topic(and knowing how these prayers looks in real life). Otherwise, clever speaker for his issues.

He is undeniably a top tier politician and will be president in 4 years. Also he's like the singular politician who actually came from poverty and doesn't just claim it.

>>25442499 The US was the only thing stopping the Soviets from overrunning the whole of Europe after WW2, so it starts from there.

Vance looks gay Vance-gay

>>25443186 and yet the so-called european elites are absolutely flabbergasted by it, many of them genuinely have no idea what he's even yapping about. the vibe of his speech alone is enough to do it, the europeans will scoff under their noses, but deep down they feel some growing sense of the ground shifting under their feet. they've never had to deal with a multipolar geopolitical reality, safe and comfy under the umbrella of u.s. security guarantees, they don't recognize the world as it existed for most of human history the sad fact is the u.s. is the only western country that has any real agency, europeans are basically spoiled children and this whole gay continent will be nothing but a trophy for whoever wins the next war, a nice big consoomer base for whoever wins the next war to dump their products on it just struck me that europe as a whole has become the poland of the world - stuck between two great powers (america and asia), weak, kind of backwards, claiming the moral high ground all the time, all the while occupying some prime real-estate that could be put to better use in better hands

>>25443334 That's just the mascara. In reality, couches are everything he needs

>>25442461 >>25439435 If you are dumb enough to believe that this blatant Peter Thiel (homosexual billionaire that owns Palantir, Mossad surveillance/military contractor) suck boy is "based", please hang yourself today. We do not need people this retarded on the right, and will be better off without you.

>>25443378 Damn that’s a harrowing vision of Europe - Poland the continent

>>25443207 Maybe not tbh, our system wasn’t meant to include political parties originally anyway

The main issue is that his speech was used by Russian infowar. You basically have to wait for Ukro-Russo war to end until you can have any meaningful change in Europe.

>>25442473 Unfortunately they are pushing for 5 % which is total joke. They just pick an rnd number for max profit. It is India tier.

>>25443317 This is true

>>25442535 At least in Finland there are laws to guarantee free speech.

>>25442587 He has to do whatever his master Mr. Trump tells him. Mean while either Israel or Russia is blackmailing Trump. Clown world but whatever ...

>>25442942 >Europe is a joke with its weak-willed leaders. Is that so, how comes?

>>25443062 >Cyprus is still under occupation. Cyprus was never a NATO member and is still an British colony.

Last hope of evropa. L'amour toujours as new German annthem

>>25443317 >The US was the only thing stopping the Soviets from overrunning the whole of Europe after WW2

>>25443709 He addressed that in his speech Europeans are too weak willed not to fall for the terrible Russian propaganda, basically a continent of sheep. Anyone with balls and gumption took the opportunity to immigrate to the new world. Grow a fucking pair

>>25443378 >europe as a whole has become the poland of the world - stuck between two great powers (america and asia), weak, kind of backwards, claiming the moral high ground all the time, all the while occupying some prime real-estate that could be put to better use in better hands kek good one tbh

>>25443378 >it just struck me that europe as a whole has become the poland of the world - stuck between two great powers (america and asia), weak, kind of backwards, claiming the moral high ground all the time, all the while occupying some prime real-estate that could be put to better use in better hands You forgot full of subhumans, though it was implied when you mentioned poland

>>25444975 >You forgot full of subhumans

>>25444808 Not sorry about making all the religious nuts emigrate, it was the right choice. Kinda funny they're back for revenge now

>>25443036 >Only a handful of guys still clapping. Gayrope on suicide watch.

>>25443378 >Equating Germany with Europe Russian spotted.

>>25443736 >At least in Finland there are laws to guarantee free speech. We have more laws to oppress said free speech. Even our speaker of parliament was convicted for criticizing islam. Burn a quran here and you'd definitely go to jail. At the same time, burning a bible is 100 percent OK somehow.

>>25453384 It's because you're enslaved by Satan.

>>25453396 I want a sexy satanic Finnish sex slave.

Remember that EU is basically a shithole dictatorship where liberal elites sit in their echo chambers totally disconnected from the actual popular opinions. Which is why the word populist is used as a derogatory term, but that’s another discussion. It gives me not a little joy to hear Vance speak these truths straight to their faces. He is saying what everyone knows, that the emperor is naked. And that is why they hate him, because deep inside they know he is right, but the road to realization and acceptance will be so, so, so long.

>>25443744 That's silly considering Trump was apprenticed to Roy Cohn for decades, before Cohn confessed to being pimp of children to politicians to blackmail them and died of AIDS in 1986. Then Trump hooked up with Jeffery Epstein, until the student became the master and killed Epstein who was held in captivity under Trump's first administration. You might reconsider whom is blackmailing whom.

>>25453436 > but the road to realization and acceptance will be so, so, so long. Can be cut short

>>25443036 wtf what about the Kalergi plan??? Vance how could you???

I have frens who I've known from imageboards for literal decades now, who have become successful, a couple doctors, a lawyer, lots of engineers, etc. and Vance reminds me of a 4chan fren who also became successful. I'm not actually sure I would be his fren but that's not my point

He's an elitist dickhead and he's friends with tech dickheads who want to be kings, fuck them all

>>25459956 >Vance reminds me of a 4chan fren Well, then please tell this 4chan-fren, that next time he's on a conference where security is the topic, he could give it a try to talk about security. I mean, it's quite obvious, that hostile forces exist, that try to do psyops to make people angry about things that go in the false direction, and then radicalize and recruit them. Hostile intelligence agencies can only work with problems that already exist, and make them appear larger. And the best way to prevent that is actually good governance, which fixes problems and prevents new ones from forming. Of course, the current european leadership has failed to live up to that standards, and now they have to use communist terminology trying to prevent pproblems to blow up that they have created with their own incompetence, meanwhile blaming russia and jailing everyone who mentions these things. Meanwhile, actual freedom of speaking truth to power, even if power does not want to listen, i.e. absolute free speech without limitations, would have prevented these problems from forming, and these incompetent leaders from staying in power and thereby preventing more competent people from taking over. That is his freedom-of-speech argument, only in such a manner, that it actually has something to do with security, and tries to alleviate a problem. He could have also started with the second amendment, because people being disarmed causes them to be afraid of weapons, and this kill every martial spirit that might have once existed, which will later make it impossible to mobilize people in case of war. Today ukraine sends loads of people to the frontlines, who aren't able to shoot and to service their weapon, because it would have taken too long to properly teach them such basic skills. These people are militarily useless, and they would not be, had Ukraine a strong gun-culture and easy access to firearms. Thus, the right to keep and bear arms multiplies the military potential and usefulness of a country in an alliance, and therefore europe should not only increase it's military spending, but also it's potential, by allowing people to be armed.

>>25459956 Anyways, on the off chance, that your 4chan-fren is vance, tell him these lines of arguments. His speech was well crafted and delivered, and I found his white-trash-redneck-morals quite inspiring, when he dropped one bomb after the other right in the faces of these incompetent faggots, that act as if they were homosexual nobility. But I still think, that it would have been better, had he stayed on topic. America is strong because it's bill of rights is very well crafted (among other things) and allies that infringe upon these rights are weakening themselves and the entire alliance, so this can not be tolerated.

He is a racemixing kike.

>>25460032 As long as he doesn't care if I don't want to racemix, I'm alright with him doing it.

>>25442461 A man who had to marry and breed with a pajeet is by definition worthless and defective. He couldn't even get an Asian.

>>25460006 Yes. But only arm ypipo in Yurop.

>>25460164 this I get getting yourself an asian, if you cant get a regular gf but a filthy pajeeta? this is BARELY one step above a negress

>>25460821 Thing is, the lower you go on the species index, the more servile the woman is sexually. Nigresses toss my salad, and suck my cock without even a reacharound. For a rich man like Vance, I bet he gets the full treatment from a pajeeta.

>>25442473 We are threatened because the US starts wars in our neighborhood while being thousands of miles away.

>>25460844 So?

>>25442461 He is literaly helping Israel, lol

Meanithe le based guy in USSR t-shirt

>>25461977 WOOOOWIE he as a teen at a costume party did wear such a shirt? Thats insane! All his arguments destroyed.

>>25461977 Solid choice for the US indeed.

>>25461984 > teen He looks like 30 tome

>>25442461 He looks like gay version of Doug Demuro

>>25461585 it is highly desirable.

german state tv called him "dj vance"

>>25462639 This is why USA will own Greenland, with it's ~50k Eskimos. No one cares what they want, and they can't make what they want happen. The Ukraine will do what it's told, or a coalition of US and Poccnr troops will make it do it.

>>25462622 >offers key concessions to putin Basically everything and more like inviting Russia back in G7.

>>25463260 I always found it interesting that birds and lizards both survived, but no dinosaurs did. Cold blooded lizards, but not warm blooded lizards. Warm blooded birds, but not non-feathered birds. Strange.

tldr what did he say thats based?

he is married to a pajeeta

instead of taking a blue-eyed trophy wife he's an idiot

marriage should be calculated and carefully arranged

He's a piece of shit typical opportunist politician. He was shitting on Trump before he realized Trump could be of use to him.

Europeans starting to come to their senses

>>25444808 coming from the country where the whole leadership clique fell for putlet's history lessons

>>25463254 I for one hope for usa-russia vs China-europe world war

No more freeloading boys No more extreme censorship

>>25463347 Democratic mandates

hes with the jews you fucking moron

>>25463508 Like 100% of the USA political body.

>>25463508 So? The jews are one part of the total world equation. It sucks that doland is so pro jew, but hes better than democrats

>>25463316 lizards can hibernate

>>25463571 Most jews cut skin off of children's penises and defend the practice.

>>25443502 >ctrl+f thiel, this was the only redpilled post You fucking faggots are clueless

>>25463347 Freedom of speech and acceptance of popular mandates are what the West exemplifies, and straying from that formula is the victory of totalitarian tyranny over Liberal Democracy.

>>25463604 Birds, though, cannot. Perhaps their ability to decamp to preferable demesnes with but negligible impediment from inhospitable intervening territory was their superpower rivaling hibernation, which I note mammals also exemplify.

>>25463571 >one part of the world equation just as the black plague was only one component of the ecosystem of medieval Europe. In fact, the evidence shows that it was the Jews that were the plague, rather than a microbe jumping the species barrier. They should be eradicated like smallpox, as the deadlier pathogen of the two.