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Redpill me regarding Ozempic Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 15:04:10 GMT No. 24921628 [Kohl] [Report thread]
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Is this the end of being fat? Even respectable science youtubers I follow said this medicine is essentially the best thing ever invented. Where is the catch?
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Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 15:05:27 GMT No. 24921636 SÄGE!
>>24921628 HOLY SHIT, A TALKING MONKEY!
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 15:08:40 GMT No. 24921653 >>24922417
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2822453
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 15:09:33 GMT No. 24921660 >>24921927
from what I've heard you just get the sharts from this and it's like sharting out your fat, might be good, but I wouldn't trust the Danes at all tbh
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 15:10:12 GMT No. 24921661 >>24921915
DO NOT BUY IT Its just Shart marketing strategy to sell to gullible idiots Sharts only want to make money its nothing burger
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 15:50:39 GMT No. 24921909
Well it made the danish company be worth like 10% of the nations gdp so it probably works
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 15:51:52 GMT No. 24921915 SÄGE!
>>24921661 its a danish product you fucking retard. you have very strong opinions about things you have 0 knowledge on.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 15:53:33 GMT No. 24921927 >>24921967 >>24922432
The problem with it is that it doesn't cure fatness, it just makes you thin as long as you take it. So fatties with no willpower have to take it for the rest of their lives to stay thin. >>24921660 It makes you eat less, that's it. That can come with its own issues like acid damage to your digestive tract, etc. Your appetite comes back and makes you fat once you stop taking it.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 15:59:41 GMT No. 24921967
>>24921927 so it's literally a brainpower replacement, just stop eating you fat fuck it's free Ozempic you retard you fat fuck big bitch titties retard little fattie
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:01:05 GMT No. 24921980
>need to consoome drugs to stop overconsooming food
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:01:20 GMT No. 24921982 >>24921985 >>24922015
why chinks havent copied this yet?
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:02:13 GMT No. 24921985 >>24923534
>>24921982 They have already. It's sold online as "compounded ozempic" for a fraction of the cost.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:05:10 GMT No. 24922004 >>24922100
you will never be desirable
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:06:20 GMT No. 24922011 >>24922019
It's a great medication for diabetus and helps with weight loss per se but, as pointed out in the threaad, you have to take it constantly, it gives you a lot of gastrointestinal problems and it's a relatively new medication, we don't know exactly how many side effects chronic use can give you. It also has a black box warning for medullary thyroid cancer.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:06:54 GMT No. 24922015
>>24921982 have fun eating relabeled diabetes medicine and all the issues that shit brings
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:07:21 GMT No. 24922019 >>24922033
>>24922011 This is illegal in Denmark to say, they all worship Ozempic there
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:09:31 GMT No. 24922033 >>24922038 >>24922054
>>24922019 Denmark has gotten rich off of our fatness. They also sell us insulin and all sorts of heart medications for hundreds of billions of dollars. Capitalizing on American fatness is a cornerstone of the Danish economy. The fatter we get, the richer they get.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:10:05 GMT No. 24922038
>>24922033 That's right you should kick them out of NATO
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:12:27 GMT No. 24922054 >>24922060
>>24922033 the companys is worth more than the rest of the danish economy combined
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:13:31 GMT No. 24922060 >>24922063 >>24922068 >>24922079
>>24922054 which is weird because drug patents run out eventually, like you'll get some generic oxempic in 2026 in usa for 0.1% of the price it is now
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:13:52 GMT No. 24922062
>>24921628 > respectable science youtubers I follow macaco
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:14:01 GMT No. 24922063
>>24922060 it's Redditors who are fixing the market
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:14:50 GMT No. 24922068
>>24922060 There are also lots of other similar medications in development/in trials already, lots of companies are trying to get into the market. We might get something better even.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:15:40 GMT No. 24922070 >>24922098
That's why the Danes are charging $1300/month for it right now. To make the money while they can in order to keep developing new drugs for American fatness. American fatness is an infinitely renewable resource to exploit.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:16:58 GMT No. 24922079 >>24922090
>>24922060 >like you'll get some generic oxempic in 2026 in usa for 0.1% of the price it is now Not in Fatistan, according to them generic medications bankrupt companies.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:18:41 GMT No. 24922090 >>24922097
>>24922079 well they probably are correct in that the profits companies make during patent exclusivity period in usa is the reason to develop drugs in the first place some shitholes like brazil do shit like not grant a patent for 10 years after its submitted, then the company has <10 years to sell a drug before the market is flooded with off brand versions
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:19:41 GMT No. 24922097
>>24922090 nobody would make medicines if they didn't get to exploit the American hard worker
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:19:43 GMT No. 24922098 >>24922108
>>24922070 Here it's only subsidized for diabetics, if you want if for obesity you have to pay for it yourself at ~500€ a month or so. I'm guessing insurances don't cover ozempic for obesity in the US?
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:19:52 GMT No. 24922100 >>24922389
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Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:20:56 GMT No. 24922108 >>24922112
>>24922098 Correct. 40%+ of the US population is obese. It would cost trillions of dollars to subsidize ozempic just for obesity.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:21:47 GMT No. 24922112 >>24922123 >>24922157
>>24922108 One could make the argument that it would be a cost saving investment for the state to put every fat american on it because of the decrease in obesity related illness.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:21:57 GMT No. 24922114
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>currently year >2024 >4 years since the Chinese plague Still trusting big pharma
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:23:31 GMT No. 24922123 >>24922149
>>24922112 I mean this even though the largely privatized health care model. Last I checked US public health care expenditures were still disproportionally big.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:24:19 GMT No. 24922129
>respectable science youtubers
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:27:52 GMT No. 24922149
>>24922123 arent the american mega healthcare provider companies prominent in top 30 most valuable companies lists all that money goes to the shareholders
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:28:45 GMT No. 24922157
>>24922112 That could be true, but: 1. Maybe insurance companies calculated that the cost of ozempic for the rest of fatties' lives would be more expensive than treating obsesity-caused illnesses over their shorter lifetimes. 2. Maybe there was government pressure to not subsidize it. After all, if so many people cut down on eating, the food industry would collapse. McD and all other fast food places would go out of businesses. Most normal restaurants would too. Grocery stores would lose sales. Ultimately, it would put a lot of farmers, distributors, etc. out of business.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:30:37 GMT No. 24922171 >>24922177 >>24923180
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This is a funny pic, but there's no need for the racism. Every racial group in the US is fat. We're not allowed to walk.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:31:30 GMT No. 24922177
>>24922171 should call it the Spic-White cycle
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:35:02 GMT No. 24922213
>enormous man wants to lose weight without effort
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:54:04 GMT No. 24922350
What about just eating less, fatso?
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:57:31 GMT No. 24922382 >>24922387
I used for one year. Lost about 20 kilos. But it has been 2 months that I lose nothing even using it. I think it wears off. I tried to increase above 1mg/week, but had hypoglycemia and passed out once.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:58:08 GMT No. 24922387 >>24922398
>>24922382 Are you still fat after losing 20kg?
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:58:36 GMT No. 24922389
>>24922100 Tbh I wanna fuck such a monster huge fat SSBBW
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:59:27 GMT No. 24922398
>>24922387 Yes, I still need to lose 10kg. But those last kilos are hard.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:02:04 GMT No. 24922417 >>24922429
>>24921653 >ppl who take ozempic kys more frequently is this all they could get on this drug? or are proper findings being swept under the rug like with the clot shots?
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:03:41 GMT No. 24922424 SÄGE!
Ook ook AAK!
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:03:52 GMT No. 24922429
>>24922417 it's just a liability thing
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:04:04 GMT No. 24922432 >>24922460
>>24921927 >It makes you eat less, that's it. Source/Citation/Proofs pls.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:04:50 GMT No. 24922441 >>24922457 >>24922977
As far as we know, the only major drawback is that it makes you lose muscle mass and concerningly not just voluntary muscles but also involuntary muscles. i.e it makes your heart shrink.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:06:06 GMT No. 24922457
>>24922441 Good, since I use steroids which make my heart increase in size. So it balances out.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:06:40 GMT No. 24922460 >>24922542 >>24922556
>>24922432 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semaglutide >It reduces food intake by lowering appetite and slowing down digestion in the stomach,[22] helping reduce body weight.[39][40] Of course, it does that through a pretty long biochemical process chain. But that's what it ends up as - calories in < calories out.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:08:38 GMT No. 24922468 >>24922540 >>24922701
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Keep buying it! Our economy is basically made up of this one company.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:16:21 GMT No. 24922540
>>24922468 It costs 170 dollars in the Brazil. For a month.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:16:25 GMT No. 24922542
>>24922460 Interesting. Thank you. To be honest, I was thinking about cheating with Ozempic to lose weight because I'm fat. But if the ultimate effect is that one simply eats less, then the thought of not being able to lose weight without pharma is mortifying.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:18:05 GMT No. 24922556 >>24922566
>>24922460 so it does the same thing as nicotine
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:18:50 GMT No. 24922566
>>24922556 *snusing Siberia 40mg nicotine/prilla still fat*
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:19:04 GMT No. 24922570
>covid vax >angry soyjak; i'm not putting that in by body >ozempic >happy soyjak
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:27:09 GMT No. 24922656
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>>24921628 I was listening to the potential side effects. I was interested in that too, but will wait for a while to see effects on other users first
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:27:58 GMT No. 24922662
I've never known a fat amphetamine user.
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>>24922468 1 dose on the Switz costs CHF38, but the health insurances only pay for it for people who have Diabeetus.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:33:07 GMT No. 24922710 >>24922730
No, read about its side effects
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:35:11 GMT No. 24922727
there is tons of things that remove hunger start with eating slow carbs full grain instead of globo grain eat something with fiber like a salad before main meal it will slow down glucose spike with 20% instead of spending hundreds of dollars on some chemical that will cure your habit induced fatness
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:35:27 GMT No. 24922730
>>24922710 I'm illiterate.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:36:59 GMT No. 24922747 >>24922766 >>24922824 >>24922836
It's like malnourishing yourself for months with the added benefit of liver damage and paying for it
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:39:10 GMT No. 24922766 >>24922811
>>24922747 so all it does is inflame the liver preventing from working correctly and distributing fat ? sounds like statin 2.0
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:43:41 GMT No. 24922811 >>24922825 >>24922950
>>24922766 Nobody knows what it does or how it works but people get less fat and more sick from it, so if thats your goal, go for it.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:45:24 GMT No. 24922824 (removed) >>24923208
>>24922747 Are you dogdor? I lately have severe muscle cramps in my upper body that appear quickly. What could it be? I haven't had anything like this before in the upper body. All I've done differently since this month is eat a lot more spicy food and give up nicotine. Will I have a heart attack?
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:45:36 GMT No. 24922825 >>24922843
>>24922811 it sounds like it fuck up the liver and force the body to start using the fat reserves
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:47:10 GMT No. 24922836 >>24923076
>>24922747 Are you dogdor? I lately have severe muscle cramps in my upper body that appear quickly. What could it be? I haven't had anything like this before in the upper body. All I've done differently since this month is eating my food with a lot of hot sauce, and give up nicotine. Will I have a heart attack?
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:47:43 GMT No. 24922843
>>24922825 Ebin. Miracle medicine xD
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 17:59:40 GMT No. 24922950 >>24922960
>>24922811 >Nobody knows what it does or how it works it mimics glp-1, hormone produced in response to eating food. it tricks your body into thinking you just ate so you're not hungry
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:00:52 GMT No. 24922960 >>24923023 >>24923054
>>24922950 Nobody is hungry anymore. People eat cuz they are bored or just love the taste.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:03:06 GMT No. 24922977
>>24922441 >it makes you lose muscle mass dieting does that, exercise and eat a lot of protein to counter that >it makes your heart shrink getting fat makes your heart big so losing fat makes it smol again
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:06:47 GMT No. 24923023
>>24922960 it seems that it can reduce all sorts of cravings >love the taste yeah that's the root cause of obesity tbh. people jump from one spook to the next, fat, carbs, seed oils etc. real issue is modern food is too tasty, that's all
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:11:33 GMT No. 24923054 >>24923071
>>24922960 I'm always hungry tho.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:13:21 GMT No. 24923071 >>24923091 >>24923093 >>24923105
>>24923054 How so with all the dirt cheap slop to fill your stomach?
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:14:23 GMT No. 24923076 >>24923165
>>24922836 >I lately have severe muscle cramps in my upper body that appear quickly. not a dogtor but interested in this stuff. where exactly are the cramps? cramps can be early sign of heart attack but it would be a matter of hours, cramps month ago are unlikely to be indicator of heart attack in the future lol
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:15:18 GMT No. 24923085
I don't really get hungry, but all I think about most of the day is food because there's nothing else in my life to look forward to, to enjoy. It's a similar story with masturbation - I don't get horny anymore, but masturbating brings me some brief joy and escape.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:15:59 GMT No. 24923091
>>24923071 slop means shit micros and macros means deficiencies
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:16:13 GMT No. 24923093 >>24923102 >>24923465
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>>24923071 I don't fill my stomach because I get fat super easily (Hashimoto's Disease). Meaning 1 meal a day + a small breakfast (oats with water + dry bread). Hence I am always hungry. I also have Ozepic face and Ozempic butt without ever taking Ozempic and am barely managing normal BMI. It's not a very happy life. I am weak and look very old.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:16:56 GMT No. 24923102
>>24923093 And also, this is Germany, the slop isn't cheap at all.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:17:15 GMT No. 24923105
>>24923071 >dirt cheap slop >Germany Maybe 10 years ago.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:23:22 GMT No. 24923165 >>24923176 >>24923184 >>24923465
>>24923076 >where exactly are the cramps? Chest muscles, shoulder muscles on the back, oddly enough also the tongue. >cramps month ago are unlikely to be indicator of heart attack in the future lol I'm having these strange cramps since about two weeks. I bought Magnesium+Kalium supplement yesterday just to try it, but my diet hasn't changed, except me using a lot of hot sauce now, but I doubt it's mineral deficiency.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:24:39 GMT No. 24923176
>>24923165 >Kalium it's Potassium in English, sorry
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:24:59 GMT No. 24923180
>>24922171 Gonna resurrect Darwin and show him this was the endpoint of all those billions of years of evolution
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:25:24 GMT No. 24923184 >>24923199
>>24923165 >except me using a lot of hot sauce now, you are browsing Reddit too much that's why you are suffering
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:28:00 GMT No. 24923199 >>24923213
>>24923184 I don't even have a reddit account.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:28:38 GMT No. 24923208
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Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:29:08 GMT No. 24923213 >>24923288
>>24923199 yea right (Cuck_to_my_hotwife420) isn't your reddit account at all
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Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:46:55 GMT No. 24923376 >>24923503
>>24921628 It makes your heart muscle shrink. That's why doctors recommend taking steroids along with it, to even it out.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:55:37 GMT No. 24923465 >>24923472 >>24923474
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>>24923165 >tongue cramps wtf I'd assume it's not directly caused by diet change (it could trigger it maybe tho) and just effect of Bernd lifestyle catching up with you I would try many things to improve the areas affected, just start slow and don't overdo it - neck isometrics (pic 1 related) - yoga (ujjayi, uddiyana, basic shit connected to breathing and upper body) - alexander method, it focuses on neck (dunno if yt is enough in this case also it's weird) - unironically mewing lmao just don't force it. do you keep your tongue on your palate? - myofascial release, just google that + chest/shoulders/neck etc - diaphragmatic breathing - pt exercises, there's shitload of that on youtube. I also like this book so posting it, pic 2 related basic ass shoulder mobility exercise I really like, 3 file is the pdf I'd start with breathing and diaphragm cause tongue cramps suggest it's something deep. check out ujjayi breathing and uddiyana (stomach vacuums). oh also pic 4 - 90 90 breathing, google it there's lots of vids. I used to pull a muscle in my neck every ~2 months, couldn't move head for few days after. It's fixable, it's muscle imbalances your weak and your body tries to keep itself up however it can >>24923093 check out the book too, you have no muscle you need to build it up slowly. Chapters 4-5 are enough, rest is anecdotes and stuff
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:56:56 GMT No. 24923472
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Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:57:05 GMT No. 24923474
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>>24923465 literally me in this picture
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:58:53 GMT No. 24923488 >>24923491
capitalists create bad for monies people get fat government refuses to do something about it capitalists create drug you need to keep taking to get rid of fat grim
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 18:59:19 GMT No. 24923491
>>24923488 The spice must flow
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:00:24 GMT No. 24923503
>>24923376 >It makes your heart muscle shrink caloric restriction makes your heart shrink
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:00:28 GMT No. 24923505 >>24923510
In the USA, the catch is that they charge so much for it that if everyone who could benefit from taking Ozempic did, the health insurance system would collapse.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:00:46 GMT No. 24923510
>>24923505 So would the food industry.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:01:33 GMT No. 24923515 >>24923528
my doctor suggested this to me but he says that you still have to put in effort to lose weight. thhis only prevents you from putting on more weight. so if you're already fat it's over.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:02:35 GMT No. 24923528 >>24923553 >>24923565
>>24923515 That's untrue. The whole point of it is that you lose weight without any effort or willpower. That comes with side effects, but most who take it say it's better to be thin and sick than obese and not sick.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:03:16 GMT No. 24923534
>>24921985 Its probably not the same thing tbh. Ozempic is a really complex synthetic peptide with modified amino acids, can't imagine that it's very easy to produce. Apparently the yield is less than 1%.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:06:02 GMT No. 24923553 >>24923572
>>24923528 >it's better to be thin and sick than obese and not sick. >it's better to be sick than not sick anti-vaxxers get the rope
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:06:39 GMT No. 24923565
>>24923528 >obese and not sick yet
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:07:05 GMT No. 24923572 >>24923582
>>24923553 I'm not taking sides here, I just hate fat people (incl. you). They deserve their suffering, whatever form it may take. There is no free lunch.
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 19:08:19 GMT No. 24923582
>>24923572 i'm not fat yet. i'm just overweight. learn the difference because one day it might save your life
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Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 22:50:17 GMT No. 24925026
>>24921628 bunch of women at work on it, all lazy office workers one of them used it to lose a lot and now she talks shit about fatties being lazy, when she has never run a km in her life it's good if it means an end to the obesity epidemic though, just wish people would choose healthier hobbies instead of waiting on scientists to bail them out every time...
Bernd Sat, 30 Nov 2024 23:37:58 GMT No. 24925242
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