Jews are causing Europe to destroy itself to make a slave caste

>>24910615 >because they don’t like it owned by a Russian, it uses gas and raw materials from Russia >Butthurt belt shut in their leg again Better poor than red although, if you're red, you're poor too.

>stop buying cheap Russian fertilizers! >buy American fertilizers instead Yeah. Just to that. Then we will put 100% tariffs on all your products and you will never put any tariffs on ours as your life depends on import from America alone.

>>24910646 How diversifying your supply makes you red? Also, is Russia communist now? I don't have a clue what is happening in your head.

>pidor never heard of principles Who coulda thought

>>24910675 >Also, is Russia communist now? Shill detected.

>>24910675 Fascist actually

enough of this soros/us dem party sponsored socialistic crap, eussr needs perestoika

>>24910690 But it's not, fascism and nazism is an application of totalitarianism to an industrialized well-developed country, while old and new ussrs have never been ones.

>>24910683 Was running out of fertilizers part of your plan?

>>24910723 it's working against since july https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2283165/lithuania-s-fertiliser-producer-lifosa-plans-to-resume-operations https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/verslas/4/2312455/lifosa-sekmingai-atnaujino-savo-veikla-prielaidos-toliau-stabiliai-vykdyti-gamyba-yra

I heard Ukraine makes cheap fertilizers. Europe should buy from them instead.

>>24910718 >perestoika It was an attempt to modernize soviet totalitarianism, EU clearly doesn't need one.

>>24910720 I would say fascism is characterized by 3 things: 1.mobilization of society vs "the other" (check: hato, hohol nazis, new world order etcetc) 2.totalitarism(check, at least they are trying, see all the screeching about births, arresting teachers, doctors and everybody else who disagrees with state ideology) 3.merger of private and public sector, i.e. stare having final say in any business while allowing oligarchs to own and manage business as long as they follow party line(check, see tinkoff and others)

>>24910826 Totalitarianism is characterized by central charismatic leader like Hitler or Trump. Putin is an old mumbling man who never participated in political debates, he may be an ideal of masculinity to 80 year old women, but not to other stratas of Russian society by any significant measure.

>>24910889 Incorrect on both counts

>>24910826 I strange that nobody can give a clear definition to fascism

>>24910923 Cuz its a complicated thing in a blurry field No two societies are the same, its hard to create clear categories and fit real 1000000-dimension societies within them

>>24910936 for me it’s very clear fascism is a form of socialism

>>24910944 There is a million forms of socialism

>>24910826 According to your definition Russia is not fascist. Anyways, this word has lost all of it's meaning, nowdays it's just an insult used to demonize your opponents and it's being actively used by everyone. So whomever you don't like is a fascist/nazi/hitler etc. In my opinion the thing which hides behind "fascism"(the term without clear definition) is a real phenomenon. Some people who use such word might actually refer to it when they use it. And this phenomenon is that some authoritarian states at a certain point of their life come to a situation where all the state actions become uncontained. A system feels threatened and it fights for its survival by using all means necessairy. There is no opposition left because they were all killed/expelled/supressed. There is no actual parliament who will veto bad decisions because it's just one party left who are all tied together with relationships of personal loyalty. So in order to the real fascism(a dangerous form of authoritarianism which causes a lot of irreversable harm) to happen you need a few things. 1 a system threatning factor(foreign/civil war, drying out cash flow which feeds the state) 2 a centralised system without checks and balances which tries to protect itself from disappearing Right now we are slowly moving to it as StateDep is slowly cooking us, but it's still far from actually happening. There is still some fresh air left and it goes through the internet, a technology which wasn't in play in 20th century. They are actively trying to supress it though, as well as there are some other signs - demolition of Gulag museum, harsher anti free speech sentences, more warmongering rhetoric from the fuhrer. But as long as there is the internet where every citizen can use a camera and become a journalist it won't develop in a dangerous phase. Also the factor of threat is still uncertain. If Trump and his team decide to add some fire under the cooking stove, it might get very ugly very quickly.

>>24910967 I literally gave you examples of how pozzneria satisfies conditions i laid out

>>24910981 You didn't read the post didn't you?

>>24911000 No its too long

1.mobilization of society vs "the other" (check: hato, hohol nazis, new world order etcetc) There is no full mobilization. All the war rhetoric is unsincere and everyone knows it. All the attempts to publicly demonize hohols get punished. It's still a war by the rules. We are fighting without much comittment, the first half of the war we didn't even try to achieve numerical advantages in soldiers which is ridiculous in an offensive war. The "new world order" is just a word salad, a nonsense with which our gov tries to fill the void of lack of state ideology. We are fighting a war. Why? Because... because JUSTICE.. For brownoids... Against the collective wect! They sell it badly but it works to some extent, especially if you target boomers. 2.totalitarism(check, at least they are trying, see all the screeching about births, arresting teachers, doctors and everybody else who disagrees with state ideology) It's still far away from Stalinist era of repression. It might be actually less bad than the current British gov with their anti free speech law. Yet not many people call UK a fascist state and it definitely isn't But poccnr is because it's a useful narrative. Let's parrot media narratives less and use more of our own brains, relying on facts and nuances. 3.merger of private and public sector, i.e. stare having final say in any business while allowing oligarchs to own and manage business as long as they follow party line(check, see tinkoff and others) I can't comment on this because I'm not sure how bad the situation is but from my limited perspective nothing has changed in that are in the last 10 years. The private sector was always smaller and weaker in it's lobbying capabilities compared to wectern countries. You can attribute it to the Soviet past or to the Russian institutional legacy per se but I don't see any strong sighs of fascism in big business getting closer to the state. In fact, it might make it more oligarchic instead which is an opposite of fascism.

>1.mobilization of society vs "the other" (check: hato, hohol nazis, new world order etcetc) There is no full mobilization. All the war rhetoric is unsincere and everyone knows it. All the attempts to publicly demonize hohols get punished. It's still a war by the rules. We are fighting without much comittment, the first half of the war we didn't even try to achieve numerical advantages in soldiers which is ridiculous in an offensive war. The "new world order" is just a word salad, a nonsense with which our gov tries to fill the void of lack of state ideology. We are fighting a war. Why? Because... because JUSTICE.. For brownoids... Against the collective wect! They sell it badly but it works to some extent, especially if you target boomers. >2.totalitarism(check, at least they are trying, see all the screeching about births, arresting teachers, doctors and everybody else who disagrees with state ideology) It's still far away from Stalinist era of repression. It might be actually less bad than the current British gov with their anti free speech law. Yet not many people call UK a fascist state and it definitely isn't But poccnr is because it's a useful narrative. Let's parrot media narratives less and use more of our own brains, relying on facts and nuances. >3.merger of private and public sector, i.e. stare having final say in any business while allowing oligarchs to own and manage business as long as they follow party line(check, see tinkoff and others) I can't comment on this because I'm not sure how bad the situation is but from my limited perspective nothing has changed in that are in the last 10 years. The private sector was always smaller and weaker in it's lobbying capabilities compared to wectern countries. You can attribute it to the Soviet past or to the Russian institutional legacy per se but I don't see any strong sighs of fascism in big business getting closer to the state. In fact, it might make it more oligarchic instead which is an opposite of fascism.

>>24911108 > oligarchic instead which is an opposite of fascism How to tell you know literally nothing about economic system of nazi germany or fascist italy

>>24910981 you can literary say the same about any country

>>24911117 No For example: usa doesnt have points 2 or 3 Germany doesnt have points 1 or 2 Lietuva has neither 2 or 3

>>24911116 Read the first text and you will realise that it has noting to do with fascism. I feel like an idiot talking to a person with a fruit fly attention span who posts shitty takes based on some wikipedia without actually using his brain. Germany wasn't fascist. A state tying up with big business is not a bad/dangerous thing. Fascism is not a system, it's a policy of a regime when feeling endangered.

>>24911146 You make shit up that has no relation to reality Literally everything you wrote is wrong

NO to cheap inputs NO to productivity NO to economic growth YES to obedience YES to Jews YES to population replacement t. Fingol government

>>24911181 Just vote them out. Don't you have a democracy?

>>24911206 I only have one vote. This is not America where you can send in millions of fake ballots.

>>24911132 >1.mobilization of society vs "the other" (check: hato, hohol nazis, new world order etcetc) US -> Terrorism, china, Russia, non-democratic world, socialism etc Germany -> antisemitism, non-progressives etc Lithuania -> Russias, Soviet Union, Socialism. >2.totalitarism(check, at least they are trying, see all the screeching about births, arresting teachers, doctors and everybody else who disagrees with state ideology) USA-> Its the same shit with ideologues attacking non-liberal ideologies at school, or republicans attacking le WOKE Germany-> You can be arrested for supporting palestine. >3.merger of private and public sector, i.e. stare having final say in any business while allowing oligarchs to own and manage business as long as they follow party line(check, see tinkoff and others) Elom musk god trump elected, Peter thiel is a military contractor and had a hand in his election. Zuckerjew had a hand in electing Biden before. You just agree with your own state ideology and are blind to it. You are a liberal living in san francisco seeling human shit everywhere, stores mass robbed and thinking its just the natural state of things. Every state has an ideology, yours too. Democracy which blinds you is an ideology too. You just believe yours is the natural state of the world and anything outside that is an abnormality. Humanity had kings for most of its history were they abnormal?

>>24911279 Totalitarism means state attempting to control every aspect of citizens life Literally every single one

>>24911288 A kid was stolen from his father in the US by his stepmom and made a transexual without the father being able to do anything. Your thinking is we are the good guys therefore everything we do is good. At least have the balls and say that american hegemony is good for you and your country and you support it because of it not all the retarded anti-fascist pro democracy bullshit.

>>24911308 I dont see what this has to do with anything

>>24911336 The state is powerful in america, in russia, in china whichever country you can name. It can do whatever the fuck it wants to when it wants to. You delusions about elections mean nothing. Did anyone had a say in covid? How was australia less of a dictatorship then ? You trick yourself into believing that because people get to vote they also get to decide on matters which is not correct. Elites force the changes they can and want on people no matter what the people want. Elections are just a whitewash, if people vote for the things elites want then its the will of the majority doing it not a cabal who made the decition in advance. You are the type of retard who will defend israel by saying its a democracy.

>>24911385 I dont see a way to discuss anything with someone who equates state power in usa and china

>>24911401 its not the same because muh elections?

>>24911405 Independent courts, elections, balance of power, representation, pluralism, counterbalances etc etc

>Twitter showed my this AD. This statement should result in a permaban.

>>24911385 Yeah liberals are retarded and butthurtbelters are the worst about it. "Totalitarian" "Authoritarian" words that mean nothing its called having a government. I had a mp4 of an 80s interview of some bydlo complaining about seatbelt and drink driving laws saying it was communist and they were gonna wake up in soviet russia. So stupid. I mean really, "authoritarian" its not like US president are any different much from each other except dumb shit like babortion and gay marriage, one person thinks Obama is ultimate freedom america and the other thinks hes a communist. So stupid fake words.

>>24910615 pussia is literally shit.

>>24911423 You have no idea what you are talking about idiot

>>24911432 And? Soil is literally a bunch of bacteria, tetanus pathogen, a bunch of parasites, worms, insects, a lot of animal feces, decomposed bodies and other organics, poisonous minerals and chemicals. Should you never eat anything that grows on the soil? Should you never use the soil to grow food or grow food for farm animals? It's so fucking stupid. Russia is shit. So what?

>>24910665 Based

>>24911479 lmao he admits pussia is shit. shit!

russian fertilizer made in ukraine

>>24911445 Neither do you. I read your conversation without meddling and it seems like you have a hard time to define what is totalitarianism and what isn't. Btw, Russia is a totalitarian shithole. And America clearly is not. I'm also can't make a short and clear definition distinguishing one from the other objectively. But I think it should be something regarding the basic rights constituting democracy with living culture: - freedom of speech - freedom of religion - freedom of trade - freedom of expression - protection of private property - protection of private life Try to make something that those. I'm sure the objective distinction between totalitarianism and a healthy, living, developing society lies somewhere in those ideas.

>>24911524 I never attempted to define it retardo

Jews hate white people and want to see us tortured, tormented and murdered. It's pretty obvious at this point.

>>24911537 If there's no definition then there's no distinction. Then your entire rambling is just slur. Are you a monkey to engage in a mindless feces slinging contests? Boring. You better stop then.

>buy all the cheap fertilizer >state issues special tax on x% of the price difference >tax is used to buy fertilizer from local producers and stockpile it once the Russians stop selling /thread

fertilizers arent an critical resource, to be honest i mean, they are important, but the truth is that any retard nigger infested shithole can easelly start to produce it with almost no capital.

>>24912348 You're from a literal jungle. Europe is a different place than your banana trees.

>>24912348 Chemical fertilizers are more efficient. And they need specific minerals. This is why Lithuania wants to quickly deplete its own deposits and then force Europe to entrust its food and lives to foreign nations.

>>24912348 It needs Phosphate

>>24912364 Just go to the hardware store and buy fert- .. oh.

>>24912352 you have no ideia how shitty brazilian soil is. it requires a fuckton of fertilizers and ph corrections and this is all done cheaply because all the stuff used to do it are literally some abundant rocks like calcarium or phospor

why don't russia just stop all trade with europoor? clearly it is a winning move according to op

>>24911524 Russia is at war, America is not. It's not an adequate comparison. If we compare Russia to Ukraine then I'm affraid Ukraine is more totalitarian(probably it wasn't the case before the war) Is it a structural feature of the Ukrainian political system? Not really, they just have it worse than us so they have to use more force against their population. Where Putin can get away with paying bydlo to sign contracts, Ze has to use busification. Both countries supress political opposition, both are being more or less paranoid about spies. Putler had his fake election where they falsyfied 20 millions votes and Ze simply cancelled his. Yet not many people call Ukraine a totalitarian state. Is it because they realise their harsh situation and make a discount or do they simply repeat the media narrative about the evil Vlad trying to suppress the young democracy and restore Soviet Union? What I want to say is it's simply inacurate to speculate on political regimes and their features without taking field conditions into considerations. Countries become more authoritarian and less democratic not only because of despot's whim, but due to actual necessaity sometimes.

>>24912370 And you think we have these rocks just lying around on our streets? Europe is cramped af. You can't walk 500m without crossing a road.

>>24912381 Can you promise that Russia will revert all the restrictive laws and reopen free cultural exchange and abolish censorship as soon as the war ends? Of course not. That because Russia is censoring and banning things that has nothing to do with the war. For example YouTube ban is just a form of cultural isolation. The same with ban of all digital libraries - so that Russian would never see any book but the Koran. Stop being delusional. Russia is a totalitarian hell not because it's at war but the other way around: Russia is at war because it's a totalitarian hell.

>>24912378 Because Russia is a tyranny. Tyrants don't think about their countries. They use their countries to extract more personal wealth for themselves. In the first place Putin and all people around them clearly destroyed any hope for any normal future for Russia. In other words by the time they die Russia will be no more and will never be again. So, the more personal gains for them - the better. Just like all the other tyrants they will sell anything to anyone who buys even if means to trample whatever pride and dignity and image of the country and its people left into the mud.

>>24912469 >Butt status: Hurt

>>24912514 Where did such a conclusion come from? Russia is a tyranny and if any country, even Ukraine, tomorrow says it will buy Russian human meat, Putin and Russian elites will start hunting Russians in the streets, slaughter them, and selling their meat, while Russian media will keep talking how good it is for Russians being slaughtered. It's just how tyrannies work.

>>24912446 Who am I to promise that? I'm not in charge. A state becomes totalitarian when the regime feels threat to itself. If the war ends and the regime still believes there is a plot by cia to make color revolution they might turn even more paranoid. The regime has started to act more irrational after the war has started and I have no doubts there is a causal relationship between the two. Lukashenko became extremely paranoid during the protest a couple years ago and he still remains in such a state despite viping out all the opposition. The threat is over but he still has memories of it and it still bothers him. As for youtube ban, I don't think it's an exclusive act of censorship. There are other reasons, one of which is processing powers. Wect has sanctioned every tech company which works with Russia, but the amount of data which is being used by internet only grows year by year. They simply can't sustain it, it's getting so expensive. This is why they sanctioned the stationary internet providers, but you can still access youtube from your smartphone and watch your favourite YT channels without any vpn. Because you have a limited traffic on it aand don't watch as much stuff. So in some sense it's the US who banned our youtube, and they used the technical difficulties as a great excuse to censor it. Win/Win(in their book) >Russia is a totalitarian hell not because it's at war but the other way around: Russia is at war because it's a totalitarian hell. I just explaned you why it is pointless to make those loud statements without taking context into account and gave an example with Ukraine and you simply ignored it and keep insisting on your straightforward take as some propagandist. I understand, it's easier to live when you divide everything into black and white but that might lead you in trouble.

>>24912559 >gave an example with Ukraine You will see, just like England didn't became a tyranny after Churchill, and the US didn't turn to totalitarianism after Roosevelt infringement on some civil rights, Ukraine after the war will turn back into a proper democracy. Unlike Russia. For Russia there are only two ways in the future: - either there will be a something like revolution and a new constitution and a new system - probably parliamentarian this time - or there will be no Russia and way less Russians in the world in just a couple of decades. War or not Russia is nor North Korea neither Belarus. To simply survive you have to kill Putin and all the people working for him. Lest they take all of you to the grave with themselves.

>>24912596 Are you the guy who writes >kill bitch putin in almost every thread?

>>24912596 Is iran a tyranny? It amazes me that there are still le democracy retards around? Are you gonna say something about international law too?

>>24912446 Russia is the home to most important digital libraries of modern world, and people behind few of them are open marxists and communists. Library Genesis - was started on university LANs by STEM students who wanted to share old, better soviet textbooks without constantly going to physical library Sc-Hub - Alexandra Elbakyan is an open communist, and she started it because publishers in "free democratic society" charge absurd money for articles they steal from authors and reviewers without paying, any institution which doesn't pay extortion is excluded from accessing science. Z-library - had 1.5 billion users at peak in August-September 2022, immediately after that the free democratic society shut it down - by tracking down it's owners, who were Russians. Anna's Archive - also a Russian project with heavy Chinese (continental communists) involvement. Aggregator of all Libgen, Internet Archive, Sci-Hub and Z-library content. distributed for free. Care to name a single democratic library that lets you access same amounts of data without payment or proprietary "digital library-card" anus scan ID system? >>24912610 Yeah, it's him. His style reminds me of a proxy who does the opposite: he justifies Russia as product of circumstances, and sometimes calls his opponent "Ukrainian retard". I wonder if it's the same person with some sort of personality division. You never see both of them in the same thread, so...

>>24912381 > Countries become more authoritarian and less democratic not only because of despot's whim, but due to actual necessaity sometimes. Countries always tend to become totalitarian. It’s the system that accumulate power and never gives it back. The war is only useful pretext. If it’s no war, they invent an enemy or provoke a war.

>>24912735 "This is how they're spending your money" and it's just random vacation photos. Also Z-library is still up and they update the current link to it in the wikipedia

>>24910615 >Allows russia to control the food market >cheap

>>24910675 >Also, is Russia communist now? It has been since WW1?

>>24910684 > moscowball cipso nigger detected

>>24910665 nod really it's like this > EU pays market price on gas > goes bankrupt

>>24913840 no, it was socialist just like you since before ww2

Welcome to EU, we tried to ban em but were cockblocked hard. Latvia imported 423,732 tons of grain products from Russia last year, which is 59.9% more than in 2022, when 265,056 tons were imported, according to the State Revenue Service (SRS). The collected data also shows that 2.137 million tons of grain products were transported from Russia through Latvia last year, which is 2.2 times more than in 2022, when 981,517 tons of grain were transported in transit through Latvia. At the same time, the transit of barley and oats has increased significantly - if in 2022 150 tons of barley were transported in transit, then last year - 109609 tons, while the volume of oat transit has increased 10 times.

>>24910615 >Apparently they do not want cheap Russian fertilizers. People I know make honey in russia occupied territories They make tons of honey every year After first year of occupation 90% of bees died What did the russians mean by this?

Why worry if Russians are fertilizing the soil of Ukraine themselves?

>>24913898 In Spring farmers did shitloads of protesting and in Only in 2024 March. we banned Russian imports of grains, fruits berries etc. BUT transits to EU still flow.

>>24913901 you will have a nutty aftertaste

>>24913907 lel

>>24913904 > it's not import, is transit you import a lot of copium

>>24913904 Is hilarious, you be farmer in EU. have to grow shit with strict regulations, never use banned chemicals etc. to save muh climate, have to farm via green methods and submit strict documentation about every single field of what you used and how much. Then Russians/Belarussians and Ukrainians grow shit with zero regulations and flood the same markets in your country and alliance :DDDD Brother is farmer, the only saving grace of farming is that all our clean grown shit goes directly to Saudi Arabia where they dont consume anything made in third world countries like Russia. Oh and funniest you cant even shoot or hunt the birds or animals destroying their fields, you have to warn them and then try to shooo them away t. german pushed Laws on farming. Birds eat up in massive flocks and then fly to Russia where Russians shoot and eat them.

Roosters need to understand that Europe/the Wect is not dependent on you, you just happen to be cheaper and in a market capitalist economy the cheapest suppliers is considered best. But that can be legislated away (look at US legislation to protect domestic production like the chicken tax or Jones Act). Europe can survive paying slightly more for domestic fertiliser, at worse the average European's net worth will fall by a few percent. Already massively higher than Russia I should add. Russian cannot win in anything.

>>24913929 Man, Europe is bitching on a high level. Worst case we take all the environmental, organic produce and health policies away and start producing the most efficient but toxic things humanity has ever devised again. In case of a possible WW3 no one will care about what will happen in 50 years.

>>24913915 G*rms ruin the Europe: part 3

>>24913955 Meanwhile high IQ polish farmers protest Ukraine while flying Russian flags

>>24913957 They can protest all they want. Its still a democracy.

>>24913959 and i can call them brainlets and point it out

>>24913961 yes

>>24913957 based and correctpilled in every way imaginable

>>24913957 government failed to inform people in time and prove that shitgrain grown without any regulations is going to africa meanwhile there were maybe 3 cases of farmers waving russian flag during those protests and all those people belonged to some pro-russian organisations

>>24913793 Impressive, very nice. Now let's see copyright's holders' vacation photos.

>>24913975 >pro-russian organisations why does poland have these orgs in the first place?

>>24913839 With this mindset you should stop international trade

>>24913899 that bees probably were never existing

niggers.

How dangerous is working on Russian ammonia fertilizer freight ship? Better be good wages.