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WWIII flashpoint is happening now Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:36:41 GMT No. 24877103 [Kohl] [Report thread]
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A Russian Merkur guided missile corvette has stopped in the Kattegat Strait between Denmark and Sweden, Helsingin Sanomat reported. The warship that arrived on Thursday appears to have come to monitor the situation of the Chinese cargo ship Yi Peng 3, suspected of cable violations in the Baltic Sea, and to demonstrate Russia's strength, experts interviewed by the newspaper estimated. The location of the Merkur guided missile corvette is not visible on open maritime traffic services because the ship's AIS locator is not turned on. Helsingin Sanomat has confirmed the warship's location with the help of an expert source using signal intelligence. The Yi Peng 3, which has been linked to the cable violations, has been anchored in the Kattegat Strait since it was apparently stopped by Danish authorities on Tuesday. - It is possible that it (the Russian warship) has been ordered to stay and monitor the situation. Or simply to show strength, which would be typical of Russia, a Polish military expert told Helsingin Sanomat.
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Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:41:43 GMT No. 24877113 >>24878489
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good. all ryssä and all chinks will pay by burning in nuclear hellfire. did you think that you could just cut my cables and live?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:42:03 GMT No. 24877115 (removed)
I changed sides now I have Chinese wife and feel safe to run away to China
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:42:05 GMT No. 24877117 SÄGE!
>is happening now No! t. realist
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:46:04 GMT No. 24877133
>A russian boat in lake nato is being impotent Wow I care a lot
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:46:57 GMT No. 24877137 >>24877151
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Why is this happening to us? Why did the deep state decide to drag us in?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:48:41 GMT No. 24877144
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:48:45 GMT No. 24877147
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More like Cold War 2.0
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:51:15 GMT No. 24877151 >>24877198
>>24877137 you don't understand sven. we will stand against the red tidal wave either together, or together with help of daddy america.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:51:31 GMT No. 24877153 >>24877167
>cable violation What is this? Is it when America destroys international infrastructure in Baltic Sea? Why don't they arrest and kill if they resist all American sailors instead? Europeans are surely pathetic: they only attack weak civilians who has nothing to do with anything at all. Europeans basically prove they're niggers on Somali level.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:56:58 GMT No. 24877162 >>24877168
>>24877103 >because the ship's AIS locator is not turned on Considering it's a Russian ship it could also be broken or stolen
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:59:12 GMT No. 24877167
>>24877153 You will never be white.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 09:59:39 GMT No. 24877168 >>24877273 >>24878279
>>24877162 This is the newest ship they have maybe they are just showing it off. But we'll sink it we'll do it
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:00:24 GMT No. 24877171 >>24877175
WWIII is happening NOW!
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:01:19 GMT No. 24877175
>>24877171 <did you know that texan ryssä is allergic to greentext?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:08:16 GMT No. 24877198
>>24877151 >the red tidal wave They collapsed. The globohomo is NATO now. Also, the Red Army was 1/3 Hohol.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:09:07 GMT No. 24877199 >>24877229
is putin driving it?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:09:16 GMT No. 24877201
*launches nuclear missiles point blank into Berlin, London, and Paris* heh, nothing personal
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:11:22 GMT No. 24877205
CAN WE JUST GET WW3 GOING ALREADY I'M TIRED OF WAITING
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:20:16 GMT No. 24877229 >>24877439 >>24877684
>>24877199 Probably. The latest Putin's steps are: - threatened Finland with invasion to force Finland to join NATO and isolate Russia completely - sent waves of illegal migrants through Belarus to force neighbouring countries to build a wall to isolate Russia - imposed ridiculous "fine" that not even nigger cunts would do against a foreign corporation (Google) - thus isolating Russia from all foreign companies as nobody would risk to deal with such country where such "fines" are even possible - started robbing foreign assets pretending it be a retaliation while in reality West can afford robbing foreign assets as others still are dependant on Western market and Western tech, while Russia robbing private companies and individuals only leads to further isolation of Russia and removes even possibility to restore Russia in the future when the political climate changes - now Putin putting navy threat against Denmark I bet Putin's goal is to force Denmark to completely block all Russian ships so that Russia would be even more isolated. Everything Putin does leads to complete isolation of Russia, total destruction of Russian economy, culture, and knowledge. I know Biden threatened to push Russia into Stone Age but it looks like it is Putin who actually does exactly that.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:20:30 GMT No. 24877230 >>24877466 >>24878273 >>24878283
It's so painful to witness how Russia simply takes the US' and EU's provocations in its stride. It'll need to take a few more until Drampfhth is inaugurated, and then realize that the orange clown is a power tripping retard like the green clown in Ukraine, just slightly more intelligent. Proper negotiations are not possible with him. So what is Russia doing? It threatens with a hypersonic hazelnut. FUCKING GAY! Here's what Russia should do: 1. Call London, Paris and Uncle Sam that in 1h, Russia will launch two dummy ICBMs, one on London, the other on Paris. Cease provocations or real nukes will follow. 2. Launch these dummies. 3. If Fronz or the Roaches launch their arsenal in response, launch Russki arsenal on the USA, Jurop and wherever they're aimed at. If they don't, the Wect will see that you're not fucking around anymore.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:37:42 GMT No. 24877273
>>24877168 Doesn't really invalid my thoughts. T-90 has stone brick filled Kontakt5 bricks too. Sort of matryoshka style.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 10:41:55 GMT No. 24877284
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Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:30:28 GMT No. 24877439
>>24877229 Russia gonna pay sound dues soon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Dues
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:37:43 GMT No. 24877466
>>24877230 Of course the Russki arsenal is fully functional because there is zero corruption and incompetence as a mafia state run organization never has any "yes sayers" in its ranks
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:41:27 GMT No. 24877480 >>24877496
just torpedo it lmao worked with kursk, cuckputin didn't even say a word
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:43:43 GMT No. 24877490 >>24877513
israel torpedoed iranian spy vessel in the red sea 3 years ago, it's the only way to deal with these niggers
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:43:49 GMT No. 24877491
Are they all sure the ship isn't just adrift and lacking maintenance?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:45:32 GMT No. 24877496 >>24877520
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>>24877480 RBS-17 is aiming at it now
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:46:32 GMT No. 24877502
Based Russia
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:49:01 GMT No. 24877513
>>24877490 You're a slave, calm down Shlomo
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:50:27 GMT No. 24877520 >>24877852
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>>24877496 I'm sure some RBS-15 is being loaded too
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:53:42 GMT No. 24877539
t. the goodest of goys news bureau
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 11:55:13 GMT No. 24877549
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>russian ship arrives to where a ship under russian captain has been detained >has been stopped
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 12:19:59 GMT No. 24877684 >>24878338
>>24877229 >total destruction of Russian economy, culture, and knowledge Already happened during soviets. Don't start with that debile "great literature" meme. Current events show that pidorashkas are just immoral alcoholic biomass driven by former KGBists.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 12:59:02 GMT No. 24877852
>>24877520 Rather sooner than later, the day will come for Swedes when they'll feel betrayed by their government for Sweden joining NATO. So sad.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 13:35:28 GMT No. 24878009 >>24878239 >>24878258
hory shit, this getting more interesting by the day also, USE YOUR OWN SHIP FOR THIS SHIT NEXT TIME, RUSSIANS
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:39:46 GMT No. 24878239
>>24878009 Russia to China is the same as Donbabwe to Russia. A "schizo loose canon" (poccnr-2024, Donbabwe), that only can be negotiated through "reasonable partner" (poccnr-2014, China). In the end they work together to undermine Ukraine/EU/whatever. It's only a matter of time before China will make a move.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:44:29 GMT No. 24878258 >>24878289
>>24878009 Send your troops for training, like NK did - you're gonna need it either way.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:44:39 GMT No. 24878259
Here is what will happen: Nothing
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> Polish military expert told
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:50:01 GMT No. 24878273 SÄGE!
>>24877230 /pol/ overdose
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:50:19 GMT No. 24878274
Would be top kek if it's Danes starting ww3, like serbs started ww1, then poles in ww2 :^)
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:50:52 GMT No. 24878277 >>24878291 >>24878331
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LETS DO THIS !
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:51:07 GMT No. 24878279
>>24877168 >newest ship they have Moskva pride of the Black Sea fleet was in pretty bad shape before its sinking.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:51:58 GMT No. 24878283
>>24877230 only the losing side will launch nukes because it would consider death a victory
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:52:23 GMT No. 24878284 >>24878285 >>24878300 >>24878367
I wonder how many German subs are in the area. If I was the German navy, I'd be shadowing that corvette with at least two.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:53:23 GMT No. 24878285
>>24878284 It would be crowded with Russian, Polish, Swedish, Danish, British etc. as well
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:55:58 GMT No. 24878289
>>24878258 for what purpose also this "training", how about you russians start mobilizing your city dwellers?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:56:31 GMT No. 24878291 >>24878298 >>24878299 >>24878329
>>24878277 your planes might take off still, but aircarriers are invalid since they have no protection against hypersonic or just a swarm of drone boats really
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:57:55 GMT No. 24878298 >>24878310
>>24878291 > russian hypersonic hitting a moving target
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:58:01 GMT No. 24878299 >>24878352
>>24878291 Yes but if you sink one it will end your country
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 14:58:13 GMT No. 24878300
>>24878284 this would help the ship's mission to test its radio engineering tools
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:00:37 GMT No. 24878308
Sink it, porks will do shit
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:00:44 GMT No. 24878310 >>24878317
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>>24878298 and what is the problem exactly? besides the fact, that wect can't into tech
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:02:27 GMT No. 24878317 >>24878320 >>24878356
>>24878310 the problem is not being able to hit the target
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:03:00 GMT No. 24878320 >>24878356
>>24878317 Just give him the hypersonic W He really needs it
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:04:57 GMT No. 24878326
cactus?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:05:18 GMT No. 24878329 >>24878368
>>24878291 If all else fails, there's always "The Samson Option" We all go to hell together
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:05:48 GMT No. 24878331 >>24878334
>>24878277 nice fake news
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:06:44 GMT No. 24878334
>>24878331 The most clever german poster The german poster with the most highly developed sense of humor
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:09:38 GMT No. 24878338 >>24878394
>>24877684 What events? Being killed? Do you think that other people can't be killed? You're delirious. And I didn't mean Russian culture in particular. I meant any culture that there is in Russia: books, movies, textbooks, music, games - anything, including Western culture. Putin simply wants to destroy everything. Like Mujaheddin did.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:12:42 GMT No. 24878352 >>24878384 >>24878419
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>>24878299 I just assumed he's discussing an all out war situation > muh nukes poisonous gasses are even more dangerous than nukes, everyone thought it's enough to stop all wars forever but it quickly turned out, that wars would go on, just without the mass-destructive weaponry same thing goes for the nukes wars would go on with hypersonics and without nukes and without the surface-faring aircarriers with Russian Federation having the superior submarine tech by being able to weld titan seamlessly you see, current ukraine situation importance is that it's a polygon of the actual war this is how it all would actually unwrap at any scale slow progress of Russians, with people being caught on the street to be forced in right wing death by suicide squads on the side of HATO in futile attempts to slow Russian progress with general population wanting to surrender to superior white christian Russian state, and tiny butthurt faggots minority, excluded from the grinder, wanting to go on
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:13:37 GMT No. 24878356 >>24878429
>>24878317 >>24878320 reading your cope is enough to satisfy my needs, thank you
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:15:44 GMT No. 24878367
>>24878284 I think I saw in an article that we only have 2 subs that are operational.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:16:00 GMT No. 24878368 >>24878386
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>>24878329 more like simpson option have you seen reich using their poisonous gasses a lot?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:17:01 GMT No. 24878373 >>24878387
>The navy’s crew, which is trained to search underwater, has performed similar tasks twice before during the investigation into the suspected sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines in 2022. Reminder This crew claimed they'd seen footprints of Putin himself and also his Russian passport floating by the broken North Stream pipleline back then. Now Biden confirmed that the pipeline was destroyed when drunk Ukrainian soldiers were throwing empty beer bottles to Baltic Sea from Polish coast. So, it looks like this particular Swedish "investigation" is full of shit.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:19:09 GMT No. 24878384 >>24878446
>>24878352 >with general population wanting to surrender lmao source? >to superior white christian Russian state LMAO
USA DIES,...WE ALL DIE Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:19:18 GMT No. 24878386 >>24878401 >>24878410
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>>24878368 >Dead hand One of the great ideas Russia has come up with So like the Chinese,....we copied it.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:19:24 GMT No. 24878387
>>24878373 Also: >At any given time, there are about 4,000 large vessels in the Baltic passing over a web of underwater cables transporting data, electricity and gas across Europe. > It said about 200 submarine cable breakages happened every year, the most common cause being human activities such as fishing or anchoring. But this time it totally "sabotage". LMAO! Those lapdogs can't even bark more plausible.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:20:04 GMT No. 24878392 >>24878434
NOTHING WILL HAPPEN DUMB NIGGER BERNDS
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:20:30 GMT No. 24878394 >>24878412
>>24878338 >What events? >Being killed? The events pidorashka started, schizo. The preparation for war, clandestine operations in Europe, low-intensity war after Crimea annexation, full-scale war right now. These events. >Do you think that other people can't be killed? This is some retarded comment, I blame your reading comprehension. >You're delirious. No. You pull some retarded idea out of your brain and start aggressively swinging with it around, thinking this is some legit argument.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:21:08 GMT No. 24878401
>>24878386 I wonder if they let AI to manage the Dead Hand now. Because if they did then we all are fucking doomed considering that AI hallucinates half of the time and false triggers about half of the time it doesn't hallucinate.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:22:16 GMT No. 24878410
>>24878386 > we would blow up the moon when the situation would come to the point, where you would want to use it now, your ruling class would prefer to just join the Russian World on generous Russian terms
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:22:28 GMT No. 24878412 >>24878431
>>24878394 Isn't it normal? All proper countries do that. Even Ukraine was in full preparation to retake its territories and planted a lot of agents in Russia in the pre-war period. You're really delirious.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:23:34 GMT No. 24878419 >>24878455
>>24878352 >Russian Federation having the superior submarine tech lel
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:24:41 GMT No. 24878429 >>24878546
>>24878356 russia has a bunch of missiles that go very fast in the terminal phase but aren't really able to maneuver meaningfully then, and then the zircon which if it existed would be good, but is more likely armata tier or worse
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:24:51 GMT No. 24878431
>>24878412 >All proper countries do that. No. >Even Ukraine was in full preparation to retake its territories and planted a lot of agents in Russia in the pre-war period. Only after the annexation and invasion. >You're really delirious. Nope, you made some HOI-IV induced fantasy and trying to sell it as some objective truth. Schizo burger
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>>24878392
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:27:19 GMT No. 24878446 >>24878452 >>24878458
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>>24878384 I actually wanted to post some TASS or RIA report, but found this and didn't bother to finding further.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:28:14 GMT No. 24878452
>>24878446 Pidorashka, improve your reading comprehension. negotiations != ready to surrender
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:28:40 GMT No. 24878455 >>24878459
>>24878419 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarine_classes_in_service
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:28:45 GMT No. 24878458 >>24878481
>>24878446 Where does it mention surrender?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:29:12 GMT No. 24878459 >>24878486
>>24878455 your point? big submarine = good?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:34:43 GMT No. 24878481 >>24878517
>>24878458 inside the article or the survey probably i don't care if it mention it, that's just how it is individs like you, who want to fight to the better end of ukraine, won't put their belly, their gold nor their iron on the line most of the nafo are glowniggers, who think they are exempt of all consequences thanks to anonymity, and troons who would get their open wound rotting after doing any real job now probably also invalids with less limbs than they need to work or fight, servicing resentment over their bio-material loss
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:36:04 GMT No. 24878486 >>24878502
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>>24878459 > not being able to build bigger submarine is good faster rockets are also so-so
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:36:07 GMT No. 24878488 >>24878565
PUTIN IS IN THE SHIP RIGHT NOW
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:36:37 GMT No. 24878489
>>24877113 Why are Saksas so warmongering?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:39:11 GMT No. 24878502 >>24878551
>>24878486 A small and silent submarine will rek a big and loud submarine at any time. Vice versa, not so much.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:43:10 GMT No. 24878517 >>24878545 >>24878555 >>24878575
>>24878481 >probably >i don't care if it mention it So you lied. Just put a note at the beginning next time that your posts are nothing but schizo mumblings and lies so I don't waste my time with them.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:53:34 GMT No. 24878545 >>24878605
>>24878517 If you put some thoughts in it it might be reasonable. Ukraine ramped its anti-Russian propaganda up to eleven. So, if Russians are shit and filth why would Ukrainians want to sacrifice themselves only to basically return Russians back into Ukraine? I would say sometimes governments overheat propaganda so much that it backfires. Just like pro-Muslim propaganda among leftards grew so big that it backfired at Jews when Israel started to fight Muslims.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:53:44 GMT No. 24878546 >>24878550
>>24878429 >aren't really able to maneuver 1. they do able to maneuver, that's the point of it being hypersonic rocket 2. even houthi towelheads are able to hit it with their basic weaponry inb4 > but there's no damage on the archive photos of the ship, that fled the region immediately after the houthi reporting on the hit
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:54:23 GMT No. 24878550 >>24878556
>>24878546 >they do able to maneuver its don't
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:54:36 GMT No. 24878551
>>24878502 doesn't sound like huge cope at all
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:55:36 GMT No. 24878555
>>24878517 >So you lied. damn you noticer, you outsmarted me now just don't get to the front line, or im doomed
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:55:50 GMT No. 24878556
>>24878550 it notn't
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:56:49 GMT No. 24878563 >>24878569 >>24878610
Why is russia suddenly so concerned over some random chinese merchant vessel)))))
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:57:16 GMT No. 24878565
>>24878488 fake news, im in Russia right now ha-ha don't listen to him, g-guys
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:58:26 GMT No. 24878569
>>24878563 there's clearly nothing happening in the region to watch over, besides the chinese merchant vessel coincidence?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 15:59:35 GMT No. 24878575 >>24878605
>>24878517 If you put some thoughts in it it might be reasonable. Ukraine ramped its anti-Russian propaganda up to eleven. So, if Russians are shit and filth why would Ukrainians want to sacrifice themselves only to basically return Russians back into Ukraine? I would say sometimes governments overheat propaganda so much that it backfires. Just like pro-Muslim propaganda among leftards grew so big that it backfired at Jews when Israel started to fight Muslims.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:05:44 GMT No. 24878605 >>24878640
>>24878545 The fact that Russians are shit and filth is the very reason why Ukrainians don't want to surrender to them. You only proved the groundlessness of that post. >>24878575 You've already posted this under your American proxy.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:06:56 GMT No. 24878610
>>24878563 >At any given time, there are about 4,000 large vessels in the Baltic passing over a web of underwater cables transporting data, electricity and gas across Europe. > It said about 200 submarine cable breakages happened every year, the most common cause being human activities such as fishing or anchoring. Yet POLITICIANS claimed it was "sabotage" while Navy and attorneys say it's too early to jump to any conclusions. In the first place is fecit cui prodest So, who benefits? China? In what way? But if Sweden start arresting all ships coming to Russian ports then it basically establish a naval blockade without open declaration of war. And lo and behold! >The navy’s crew, which is trained to search underwater, has performed similar tasks twice before during the investigation into the suspected sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines in 2022. The same people who has been lying outrageously for 2 years are now "investigate" this. Russian may think that Sweden and Norway, AGAIN, blew some line in Baltic Sea only to interrupt Russian trade. Hm? Here we go: we found who benefits - Sweden itself! So, if, from Russia POV, it's an attempt to set a naval blockade against Russia then surely Russian navy should be involved. It won't be a surprise if Russian navy starts escorting all trade vessels coming to Russian ports till they pass Danish waters.
who would win Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:11:06 GMT No. 24878624 >>24878728
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Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:14:44 GMT No. 24878640 >>24878686 >>24878734 >>24878760
>>24878605 End of war isn't the same as surrender. If Ukraine won the war all the Russians in the East, and the Crimea, and then from those 3 Russian regions Ukraine invaded, and a bunch more Russians from Azov region - they all would become citizens of Ukraine. This is the "victory" Ukraine fights for. As I said, the propaganda is overheated. Ukraine should be: 1) much clearly regarding its plans about Russians; like openly promise to kill every man, woman, and child if they have any Russian blood in their veins 2) or it should start differentiate between "good Russians", "bad Russians", and "ignorant Russians who could be educated to become good Russians". I don't tell that Ukrainians are particularly stupid. There are a lot of nations who can't handle their own state propaganda properly. America included. It's just Ukraine is a newborn country. Not even a toddler. And it never even tried to govern over different groups, let alone different ethnicities. So it's only natural that Ukraine makes all the imaginable and unimaginable mistakes, including those which are well known and often repeated in history of other countries. It's just in general Ukrainians hate reading history as there always some nuances they don't align with Ukrainian set of believes and state propaganda. You better go and persuade your fellow compatriots about the goals and reasons why they need to return all the Russians back into Ukraine and then add several million Russians on top of that. Or persuade them than most of Ukrainians must willingly let themselves be killed as their blood is stained by a Russian ancestor or two. Do something.
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>>24878640 > he doesn't know Also, your faggy style of posting is obvious despite new proxy.
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>>24878624 Merkur because missiles.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:41:49 GMT No. 24878734 >>24878744
>>24878640 >then from those 3 Russian regions Ukraine invaded, and a bunch more Russians from Azov region >3 Russian regions Ukraine invaded It's time to take schizo pills, bro
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:44:54 GMT No. 24878744 >>24878755
>>24878734 Whatever. I told what you should do: correct the propaganda narrative in a way that would be easier to understand for general Ukrainian public. If you don't want to then don't be surprised when Ukrainian people got some funny ideas you didn't want.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:46:03 GMT No. 24878749 SÄGE!
>>24877103 >has stopped in the Kattegat Strait Most likely engine broken. >The location of the Merkur guided missile corvette is not visible on open maritime traffic services because the ship's AIS locator is not turned on Doesn't work either, I bet. Ruskian navy is a fucking joke https://youtu.be/yzGqp3R4Mx4?si=TSEJ3fbF7jRiz-VC>>24877103
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:47:02 GMT No. 24878755
>>24878744 I am not some state official and do not take any unwanted advice from kohlturds.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:47:26 GMT No. 24878760 >>24878774
>>24878640 >End of war isn't the same as surrender. That was exactly the point of my post that you replied in the first place. And I was replying to manipulator who tried to paint negotiations as the equivalent of surrender. Why are you even typing these paragraphs. >Russians in the East Before the war, they were a minority there, and they will be free to return to the place from which they or their ancestors were imported. >3 Russian regions Ukraine invaded, and a bunch more Russians from Azov region The goal is 1991 borders, you are delusional. >the propaganda is overheated. Your brain is overheated with propaganda for sure.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:50:16 GMT No. 24878774 >>24878790
>>24878760 >they were a minority there Sure. But quite a significant minority. Scotts and Irish also were minorities in UK. Guess how much trouble they caused and for how long only because they felt discriminated against.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:50:22 GMT No. 24878778 >>24879000
>>24878728 This. Why do European ships these days come without any acceptable weaponry except one undersized vertical launch pad? What even is the meaning of their presence? What is the advantage of heaving this kind of grey painted cruise ship?
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 16:53:06 GMT No. 24878790
>>24878774 They are a significant minority in Latvia, for example. Guess how much trouble they are causing now? Zero. It is only necessary to copy the firm Latvian approach to them.
Bernd Sat, 23 Nov 2024 17:47:24 GMT No. 24879000 >>24883013
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>>24878778 Finnish ships are armed to teeth, didn't know danish ships are so cucked, I just assumed everyone was a russorealist as well
Bernd Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:10:45 GMT No. 24883013 >>24883683
>>24879000 >8 subsonic anti-ship missiles with smol warhead >32 midrange sams >no long range sam >no CIWS Meh. Any real destroyer or even a proper frigate will effortlessly soak up those 8 AShM and lob a couple supersonics back overwhelming the ESSMs. It's an OK corvette to fight someone who has no real warships kekw. I don't see the point to have it vs someone with an actual navy.
Bernd Sun, 24 Nov 2024 08:14:51 GMT No. 24883683
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>>24883013 What the fuck are you talking about? Those Fingol ships are the most heavily armed ships in their size class. They have the heaviest anti-ship missiles (Gabriel 5) on any HATO corvette or frigate, and are capable of firing the Tomahawk, Standard Missile, LRASM etc. Find another ship with a similar length and displacement that has that kind of weaponry. Also, they can deploy a large number of naval mines and can navigate through ice. In America, we have this piece of shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Littoral_combat_ship >8 subsonic anti-ship missiles with smol warhead Wrong, the Gabriel 5 has a massive warhead. The missile is 3x the size of NSM and 2x the size of Harpoon. >32 midrange sams >no long range sam Name a ship this size that has a long-range SAM system. A mid-range system like ESSM is sufficient for self defense and fleet defense, but the Mk41 cells can house long-range systems, when needed. These are the smallest ships in the world with full strike-length Mk41 cells. >no CIWS CIWS is a meme-tier last-ditch effort, at best, against modern anti-ship missiles. More and more navies are opting not to install them, and instead use a combination of a multipurpose gun (Bofors 57/40mm), EW and countermeasures.
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