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Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:32:23 GMT No. 25509747 [Kohl] [Report thread]
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Explain East Germany to me. Has the German cultural-political unification failed?
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Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:33:40 GMT No. 25509754 >>25509765 >>25510193 >>25512156 >>25515658
East Germans saw the horror of communism and want to prevent it from arising again, simple as
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:33:44 GMT No. 25509755 >>25509765 >>25511873
Slavs speaking german, simple as.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:34:11 GMT No. 25509757 >>25509758 >>25509765 >>25510781
>>25509747 They're either far right or far left. Muh horseshoe theory, simple as.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:34:35 GMT No. 25509758
>>25509757 It boggles the mind
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:35:19 GMT No. 25509764
I vote for the "SPD" party, the party for "SPezialzer-edukation Dumkopfts" like me :)
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:35:19 GMT No. 25509765 >>25510055
>>25509755 Bullshit. >>25509757 Kinda true. Few centrists. >>25509754 They vote left wing parties or right wing parties supported by Russia.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:37:31 GMT No. 25509782
OST OST OSTDEUTSCHLAND
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 17:36:50 GMT No. 25510055
>>25509765 But why?
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 18:09:51 GMT No. 25510193 >>25510230 >>25510590 >>25512222 >>25515658
>>25509754 Basically this. From 40 years of DDR they have a special sense for a corrupt "democratic" government that is only bullshitting them, and know that the state-controlled media can't be trusted.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 18:12:01 GMT No. 25510203
>>25509747 They're poor and poor people always vote wrong, no exceptions.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 18:13:14 GMT No. 25510213
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Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 18:15:35 GMT No. 25510230 >>25510570
>>25510193 Flopping from domestic state owned media to foreign state owned media isn't particulary clever either.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:14:43 GMT No. 25510560 >>25510613
East Germoney was more ethnically homogenous than Wect Germoney. Wect Germoney started getting immigrants since 1960s. Also, East Germoney never apologized or took responsibility for holohoax, so there was no sense of national guilt.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:17:29 GMT No. 25510570
>>25510230 Nice strawman
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:20:52 GMT No. 25510584
>>25509747 They're based Soviet-trained atheists who believe in sound statism, such as "niggers shouldn't be shoved into our country".
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:21:54 GMT No. 25510590 >>25510750
>>25510193 It's true. They can sense the media and state is trying to fool them.They know the government isn't their friend. Wessis are more naive and clueless in that regard.They lack the historical experience
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:25:32 GMT No. 25510613
>>25510560 as usual you have no idea what youre talking about.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:47:15 GMT No. 25510750
>>25510590 Bernd would not say the wessis lack experience. They hade made a different experience in a State, that won peacefully over its neighborstate. The wessis are the winners and they mostly trust their media and government. And the history proves them right. The ossis on the other side had a government and a statemedia who could not be trusted. They were telling them that everything was going fine an smoothly. Der Plan wird uebererfuellt... . But the problems could be seen in the real life every day. Its like in this famous (amaerican? Ayn Rand?) poem. "You can ignore the reality. Bout you cannot ignore the consequenses of this ignorance." And today, in our "freiestes Deutschland aller Zeiten" somthing smells fishy for most of the ossis. They get told that everything is running fine and smoothly. They have heard that before and that state is no more. This is what they learned from history, their experience.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:50:18 GMT No. 25510770 (removed) >>25510785
>>25509747 fake graphic
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:51:49 GMT No. 25510781
>>25509757
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:52:18 GMT No. 25510785
>>25510770 It's true. Our election system works entirely different than the American though, even if the whole map was blue there could be still a "Jamaika" Black-Red-Green coalition ruling
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:59:18 GMT No. 25510852 >>25511869 >>25511992 >>25512128 >>25514659
There is no winner-takes all system in Germany, hence the graph is a little misleading (to you). It only shows the simple majority, no matter how thin. That majority does not matter; the total count of individual secondary votes cast by all citizens is what matters. Even in the blue parts of the East, black has gained. Even in the black parts of the West, blue has gained. And red has lost everywhere. Sure, AfD is more popular in the East, but the general trend is exactly the same on both sides of the old border. That being said, East Germans do have a slightly different mindset, as has been pointed out already. On the one hand, they have less trust in the state and its institutions. On the other hand, there's an expectation that the state plays a bigger role and takes care of things.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 22:20:23 GMT No. 25511869
>>25510852 Very well explained. Majorities in the many counties of Germany mean nothing, unlike in the US.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 22:21:12 GMT No. 25511873 >>25511877
>>25509755 Berlin is poccnr name ackshually
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 22:22:04 GMT No. 25511877 >>25511901 >>25512344
>>25511873 "Berlin" is an ancient slavic word for "swamp" or something, iirc. Rightful Polish clay.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 22:28:52 GMT No. 25511901
>>25511877 > Rightful Polish clay. Get in line!
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 22:52:11 GMT No. 25511992
>>25510852 >Even in the black parts of the West, blue has gained. >And red has lost everywhere. > I want to see a graphic that shows this
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 22:56:15 GMT No. 25512010
German boomers in the West have been voting for CDU / CSU for the last 40 to 50 years. They are not going to stop now. East Germany doesn't have established political party like that anymore as SED obviously no longer exists so it's easier for new comers to sneak in.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:00:39 GMT No. 25512037
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>>25509747 >cultural-political unification failed You think it's only germany?
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:03:35 GMT No. 25512061 >>25512148 >>25512357
How come they don't just separate into different countries? Shouldn't be a problem since there is already multiple german countries anyways
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:09:53 GMT No. 25512128 >>25512293
>>25510852 Do you have a map with the AfD gain per Lander or subregion? I think it would break some myths.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:12:50 GMT No. 25512148
>>25512061 Could work, as long there's an EU. Poland prospers, despite 90% of its economy is still controlled/funded by Non-Polish companies.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:13:55 GMT No. 25512156
>>25509754 The only stable point of AfD is anti-migration. Don't know how it prevents DDR style communism. All commie states were concentration camps with very strict border control. Even migration between commie states was strictly regulated.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:14:55 GMT No. 25512166 >>25512172
Who votes for the Left, SPD or the Greens? What those parties have to offer and how they try to attract voters?
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:16:12 GMT No. 25512172 >>25512190 >>25515635
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>>25512166 Women, and their soyboy cucks.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:19:35 GMT No. 25512190 >>25512381 >>25518323
>>25512172 That's what I thought. Greens aside as I assume those are eco-nuts, it's kinda weird how those supposed left-wing workers parties offer nothing to actual workers. Even curbing immigration (both legal and illegal) is a left-wing voting issue in essence. Immigration harms the working class and makes the rich even richer.
Yaoi irl Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:23:12 GMT No. 25512202
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>East Germany still in love with Soviet Russian bf's big cock >New bf West Germany is a dork >East Germany starts sexting his ex bf
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:23:37 GMT No. 25512206 >>25512213
>>25509747 >Explain East Germany to me. Overwhelmingly poorly educated, huge unemployment rate, they live off of subsidies and handouts and yet they are very opinionated, full of themselves and constantly keep asking for gibsmedats. Reminds me of something but I can't put my finger on it
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:24:49 GMT No. 25512213 >>25512228
>>25512206 I knew there had to be a reason why Poles and East Germans see eye to eye so much
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:26:33 GMT No. 25512220
Elon Musk controls AfD Thats the wildest update
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:26:41 GMT No. 25512222 >>25512258 >>25512259
>>25510193 Ossi circlejerk bullshit. Ossis suffer from crippling self doubts and inferiority complex at the same time as suffering from illusions of grandeur like what you just said. They are poorly educated, overwhelmingly unemployed and unemployable and yet they think they are the shit. Ossis voting far right (or far left for that matter) is not about politics but about identity. They desperately seek to distance themselves from the "Wessis" and that is all they think off even though they've been living off west german gibsmedat for the last 40 years. Niggers of germany
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:27:57 GMT No. 25512228
>>25512213 I only ever have made positive experiences with Poles. They are usually polite and reasonable and they want to work to better their lives. No Pole I have ever met was like "YOU SHOULD GIVE ME FREE MONEY BECAUSE I SUFFERED COMUNISM!!!".
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:34:55 GMT No. 25512258
>>25512222 If it's that bad 1. Vote on split 2. Two new EU countries made 3. West Germany votes to rejoin in NATO 4. East Germany vote on rejoining Warsaw Pact, sell off HK G36s and go to Bulgaria to buy new AKs
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:35:31 GMT No. 25512259
>>25512222 I could answer to this now and make an elaborated post explaining how you're wrong, but my alarm clock is ringing at 05:45, for my next work day. Perhaps this thread will survive till tomorow.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:44:31 GMT No. 25512293 >>25512323 >>25514578
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>>25512128 Yes. Sorry for phoneposting format. Mind you the numbers are gains(!) from 2021 -> 2025 in percentage points. As you can see, in many areas in the West AfD grew just as much as it did in the East. And there's no area with a negative growth.
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:52:55 GMT No. 25512323
>>25512293 Okay so basically +10% for most of regions in western Germany in 4 years, not bad at all. Like I already said in others threads, in some years we will have a completely different political landscape. Boomers will disappear, so the centrists (CDU/CSU and SPD) will disappear and it will be only about Left/Green VS right (AfD, RN, etc.).
Bernd Tue, 25 Feb 2025 23:59:34 GMT No. 25512344
>>25511877 >"Berlin" is an ancient slavic word for "swamp" or something, iirc. Just like Bern, Switzerland
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 00:02:10 GMT No. 25512357
>>25512061 >How come they don't just separate into different countries? The leaders of AfD are all/mostly from the West even in the East.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 00:08:00 GMT No. 25512381
>>25512190 >Greens aside as I assume those are eco-nuts, LOL that was/is just a cover for the most extreme Leftist that make up the Green. What Greens unite is hatred of the German people and Germany. They are selected prime example of US reeducation and allied German-hating Kanaker, from Poles to Iranians to Nigger of all sorts.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 00:19:57 GMT No. 25512415
I'm an Ossi myself and I think Ossis are fucking retarded.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 01:38:30 GMT No. 25512751 >>25512772
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what happens here?
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 01:42:12 GMT No. 25512772
>>25512751 People are well off and happy
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 02:51:08 GMT No. 25513101 >>25514588 >>25516080
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>>25509747 >Explain East Germany to me.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 03:48:58 GMT No. 25513250 (removed)
tfw no germanoid gf
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 10:43:23 GMT No. 25514578 >>25514669 >>25515693
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>>25512293 New map just dropped.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 10:46:11 GMT No. 25514588 SÄGE!
>>25513101 Are you retarded?
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:04:51 GMT No. 25514659 >>25515693
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Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:08:19 GMT No. 25514666
>East Germany is called Prussia simple as no futher explanation needed
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:09:24 GMT No. 25514669
>>25514578 woah... chat, can we kill the jews?
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 14:42:51 GMT No. 25515635
>>25512172 Good afternoon I hate women so much it is unreal
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 14:46:17 GMT No. 25515657
>>25509747 They are used to shitty politicians, they are not going back to pretend they are not.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 14:46:17 GMT No. 25515658 >>25515693
>>25509754 >>25510193 I don't know why people believe this. Ossis vote anti-west, pro-russia. That's why both rightwing and leftwing parties are popular there at the same time. They're basically single-issue voters, if you want the Ossi vote say you want closer relationship with russia and leave NATO. The AfD has less success than predicted this time because Weidel visited the US and the party explicitely said they want to stay in NATO. So yeah they're pretty much the only post soviet people that still believes the cold war propaganda stuff.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 14:47:04 GMT No. 25515663
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The regional differences are pretty nuts
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>>25509747 >Explain East Germany to me. They still remember how a socialist dictorship feels, that's why they fight the current one.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 14:53:37 GMT No. 25515693
>>25514578 >>25514659 see >>25515658 What made the AfD popular in the east (eg. blatant shilling for russia) made them unelectable to western conservatives. Weidel coming closer to the west (For example, she refused to join the annual "rape a German" celebration party of WW2) cost her votes in the east but gained her votes in the west.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 14:53:57 GMT No. 25515696 >>25515733
>>25515684 They are literally Die Linke core voting region lol.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 14:56:27 GMT No. 25515709 >>25515736 >>25515738 >>25515744
Imagine a region composed entirely of Drachenlords and that's East Germany
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:00:02 GMT No. 25515733 >>25515772
>>25515696 >They still remember how a socialist dictorship feels, that's why significantly more people than in western Germany fight the current one. Better?
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:00:45 GMT No. 25515736 >>25515752 >>25515762
>>25515709 Imagine a country full of globohomo shills and that's Latvia.
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Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:02:16 GMT No. 25515744
>>25515709 That's pretty accurate
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:03:51 GMT No. 25515752 >>25515759 >>25515899
>>25515736 entire european union is globalhomo shills dude
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:04:36 GMT No. 25515759
>>25515752 Latvia on KC is very prominent in shilling the Current Thing (TM).
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:05:12 GMT No. 25515762 >>25515777
>>25515736 t. Ossi
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:06:40 GMT No. 25515772 >>25515785
>>25515733 They want the DDR back. Ossis being some anti-commie army due to past experiences is some Kohl-era conservative wishful thinking, they're buck-broken slavshits yearning for the russian whip. Putin could annex Eastern Germany far easier than Crimea if he wanted.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:07:19 GMT No. 25515777 >>25515806
>>25515762 I am a proud Hamburger but I respect Ossis for being both based and welcoming to non-shitskin guests. t.likes Ossis ever since he was on vacation there
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:08:30 GMT No. 25515785 >>25515802 >>25516284
>>25515772 You are stuck in your Ossi-and Russians-psychosis. Get help, seriously.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:10:35 GMT No. 25515802 >>25515809
>>25515785 t. Ossi Anyone can just try talking to them on /b/ or irl and see for themselves.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:11:05 GMT No. 25515806
>>25515777 >Only region except eastern Germany that consistently votes communist lol k
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:11:12 GMT No. 25515809
>>25515802 You are seriously sick.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:12:36 GMT No. 25515818
> be making an infographic > pick grey and slightly darker grey as colors for some categories
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:27:23 GMT No. 25515899
>>25515752 The EU is less globohomo than the US of A. The EU protects farmers - the USA lets corporations to buy all the land.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:49:31 GMT No. 25516042
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Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 15:54:05 GMT No. 25516080
>>25513101 Nowadays half of those companies dont exist anymore or you have to put them onto a chinese map
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 16:30:04 GMT No. 25516284
>>25515785 >You are stuck in your Ossi-and Russians-psychosis. He is a western leftist jew The left never liked nor wanted German reunification and THEY HATE people from former GDR for "betraying socialism" (they never bothered to join by moving there). Especially SPD Scholz party said in 1988 that there will be never a reunification and wishing so is revesionism, revanchism, fascism and will lead to the next world war. Scholz was an admirer of GDR and all of his current comrades as well. Famous SPD member and shill Nobel price writer Grass protested reunification and claimed partition of Germany and putting the eastern half under soviet dictatorship as "just punishment for WWII". Lots of leftist tried to play down their antipathy for people from eastern Europe that escaped communism with degrading "humor" about those rubes, retards and "fascists" - like the title "Zonen-Gabys erste Banane" Gaby from the (East-)Zone first banana, showing a girl with a cucumber, not having an idea how a real banana (west) looked. Lefties really liked to make banana jokes about easterner because that was a fruit plenty in the west but hardly available in the east. It was passive-aggressive posturing under the see-through cover of "humor", that their "prefered economic-political system" came crushing down. Western leftist hated people that had fled the Soviet system even before of the fall of the wall regardless of nationality. For them they were all right-winger, "fascists" or real Nazis, but the most scorn they had for Germans, be that from GDR, resettler from former German territories or Russian-Germans. You can still see that here after 50 years, with the accusation of being a "Waldi", Waldemar allegedly a typical Russian-German name. Mind you lots of "Russian-Germans" that came after the fall of the wall are actually Russian jews, hundred of thousands, at least a half million of them having moved to Germany. The Greens went complete insane, conditioned through reeducation, seeing the rise of a 4th Reich with jews going through smoke stacks. They demanded the complete eradication of Germany and the German people. They did that in writing and political activism of the Anti-Germans. Those people not immediately put into insane asylums was work of the protective hands of foreign intelligence agencies holding over them, see Leipzig Connewitz. You should really careful check whatever a "German-ball" is posting here. They are more likely not German at all.
Bernd Wed, 26 Feb 2025 21:05:44 GMT No. 25518323
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>>25512190 >it's kinda weird how those supposed left-wing workers parties offer nothing to actual workers Fun fact: 38% of workers voted for the AfD (total result only 20%) now. This is the real working man party, what SPD once used to be.
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