No, it sounds worse

mutio bomb!

>>25508885 portuguese has this vibe of a smiling monkey without teeth eating a soup with his friend and discussing the taste, and the friend has nothing to say because he is in the soup

>>25508889 whatever atrocity brazilians do, the language is always joyous

Traisch meysch

>>25508895 >>25508889 >>25508885 niggas arround here says its a looklike to russian, and say that russian is easy to learn because word sound similarity

To be fair, English sounded equally bad to me when I was a kid. It's a horrible language, too many consonants and ugly sounds, plus the absence of a true 'r' makes it sound very faggy. Brazilian Portuguese sounds alright, as do all Latin languages, with the exception of those that sound beautiful (Latin, Italian, Occitan).

Here's Brazilian Portuguese as spoken by a sophisticated speaker (born 1886) back in the 60's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmEbKt7kxY0 What does Bernd think?

>>25509245 when did Brazilians stop saying "shh" and start using "s"? also t's becoming ch's?

>>25509265 The sh thing is a regional accent, Manuel Bandeira is from the Northeast and they still sound like that, same in Rio.

>>25509271 don't they do that in Portugal as well? I figured that's how it used to be and at some point Brazilian accents changed

>>25509282 Yes in Portugal they also say sh but I have no idea about how phonetics have changed over time in both countries. One thing I noticed in the video he posted is that Bandeira is always trilling the R, today this is much less common in the Northeast, they use an H sound when the R is at the beginning of a word, at the end, or before another consonant.

What "portuguese" sounds like varies a lot even in Brazil, let alone if you consider other countries PT-PT sounds slavic

>>25508902 No, that was European Portuguese

>>25509282 It's part of his accent. And yes, they do it in Portugal too, and in most of Brazil. It can be more or less intense, depending on what region you're from. I used to do it as a kid but lost it. Here's a Minas Gerais accent (speaker born in 1902): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huc9EFfY4Ag Italian-Brazilian São Paulo accent (speaker born in 1912, son of Italians): https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1pbFCi2Bkys 'Theatrical' Brazilian Portuguese, sort of equivalent to old Hollywood accents (Italian-Brazilian speaker, born 1894): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Y79ZQITCw

Do Brazilians understand Portuguese speakers from Portugal and vice versa?

sounds whiter than american english for some reason

pratschicamenji

>>25509350 Yes unless you are ans 80iq favelado

>>25509350 Yes although if you overhear 2 Portuguese people speaking very casually with a bunch of weird slang terms thrown in it can be awkward at first.

>>25509350 Yes. Here's what an educated PT-Portuguese speaker sounds like, by the way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg7g86TGOGk I dislike it that Bernd usually gets access to foreign languages through their worse speakers, usually from meme favela videos and such, which is why I am posting more sophisticated speakers. Even Brazilians will tell you favela Portuguese sounds horrible and that an average Brazilian's Portuguese doesn't sound particularly good either. It's like listening to English spoken by Rednecks. Does not mean that the language/accent itself is bad. I think BR Portuguese is actually sufficiently good, from a sound perspective. It is better than Portugal's Portuguese because it preserved the full pronunciation of the vowels, thus retaining the fundamental beauty of Romance languages. On the other hand, I believe Spanish and specially Italian sound better than Portuguese. Latin sounds better than Spanish, though worse than Italian. >>25509351 It is certainly more civilized than English, being a romance language.

>>25509446 Spanish depends on the accent imo Standard peninsular is the best to my ears

You need to live it

>>25508861 jooheh, jooheshtukom tu brazhiu... jooheshtukom tu brazhiu... gobragao. jooheshtukom tu brazhiu, fooh weemeh gobragao e so pracao jooheshtukom tu brazhiu. Jeluh foo weemeh gobragao e so pracao. Bao Komtu brazhiu joohesh, jooheshtukom tu brazhiu

brasilian sound annoying like wtf dude i dont understand you speak english lol fag

>>25508861 Doesn't sound too bad tbh.

O rei de baiao entrou na conversa. the king of the northeastern music has entered the chat This is the all time peak of nordeste culture and dialect

>>25509350 Yes. The main difference is not even the accent that varies throughout the countries anyway. It is the second person. Traditional Portuguese knows a casual form (tu) and a formal form (você) to address somebody in front of you. "Tu" mandates a verb in the form of the second person (like you in English or Du in German). Você however mandates a verb in the form of the third person (like "he" in English or "Sie" in German). In Portugal they use "tu" in 99% of all cases nowadays but in Brazil it is always você.

>>25511347 basically brazilians are rude as fuck and portuguese are polite and traditional

>>25511354 Strangely enough it is just the other way around.

>>25511356 not really, if im asking you for something i think its polite to as you directly and not refer to you as "him" its like how niggers talk >ayooo my man actual gonna gas mans up like that!??! versus >excuse me, could I ask *you* for the time?

>>25511356 ayo blud mans actual think mans dont move like that

it's either >that's how portuguese sounds? or >that's what portuguese sounds like? pick one faggot esl niggers disgust me

>>25511371 That's something English speakers hardly can comprehend, because you don't have any current formal form. Closest thing in English would be something like: "I will address his majesty if it pleases his majesty."

>>25511682 yeah but if you talk like that to 99% of people it removes all meaning, hence my statement that the brazilians are rude. since they mock the formal form by refering to each other macacaos like theyre royalty (lol) whereas the polite portuguese reserve all reverence where it is properly due i.e. not for literally baboon ape-men

if a medieval peasant went around calling other medieval peasant "my lord" and "your grace" theyd get their head chopped off and rightfully so

>>25511275 Which corner are you begging at, merdestino? How do you find jegues to fuck? Do you make deals with gypsies?

>>25511371 Tu não sabes do que falas, barata Língua crioula como a tua não tem lugar de fala

>>25511915 guau!!!! uma baldheadinho!!!

>>25511915 say that in ENGLISH, i dont speak monkey

gubracal, suprasal

Portuguese among Roman languages sounds like Polish among Slavic languages.

>>25511275 Sorry but the nordestino king is definitely Sivuca.

>>25511705 it's more like -kun/-chan v.s. -san/-sama than 'your majesty. in Brazil they use formal all the time probably because slaves being taught to speak would have no need for the informal used between peers

>>25511354 It is literally the other way around: Brazilians tend to be polite while Portuguese tend to be rude. Portuguese people are often perceived as rude and sometimes a bit dismissive. Let me give you an example: if a Brazilian tourist, driving his car in Portugal, asks a passing Portuguese person if he can park there, the Portuguese will say "yes", but shortly afterward, the Brazilian will receive a ticket for illegal parking, and when he confronts the Portuguese person, saying that he was told it was fine to park there, the Portuguese will simply respond, "You didn't ask me that, you asked if you could park there, and I said yes. Look, your car is parked there, so you managed to park it." It's no wonder why we have so many Portuguese jokes here in Brazil.

>>25511354 It is literally the other way around: Brazilians tend to be polite while Portuguese tend to be rude. Portuguese people are often perceived as rude and sometimes a bit dumb. Let me give you an example: if a Brazilian tourist, driving his car in Portugal, asks a passing Portuguese person if he can park there, the Portuguese will say "yes", but shortly afterward, the Brazilian will receive a ticket for illegal parking, and when he confronts the Portuguese person, saying that he was told it was fine to park there, the Portuguese will simply respond, "You didn't ask me that, you asked if you could park there, and I said yes. Look, your car is parked there, so you managed to park it." It's no wonder why we have so many Portuguese jokes here in Brazil.

Brazilian women would be #1 if not for the fucking disgusting language & accent.