maybe God's will is for us to pray

>>25506997 He wants us to convince him of what he already expects us to convince him of?

>>25507006 God is not your mom you are not going to convince him by being a bother

Just cut your foreskin off. Trust me, you'll love it!

i think by praying something to be different, you are challenging God's decision. And what makes you think you know better than God?

>>25506995 You've escaped the binding chains of religion.

>>25507035 Welcome to the binding chains of cold, indifferent materialism.

>>25506995 >What's the purpose of prayer if everything that happens is God's will? God isn't a wishing well, you fucking pagan. The purpose of prayer is to worship.

>>25507050 See, this makes the most sense; Worship god because he is the ultimate blood-hungry nightmare and you're better off sucking his dick than cursing his name.

Gagarin was in cosmos and there is no god.

>>25507050 I mostly bitch. I would say 80% of all my prayer is me complaining. Maybe more. I’m like fuck this world what is this shit? All the time. I ponder his thoughts truly on my thoughts. Even when I feel I am having a conversation with God. It’s me almost only bitching. And him being like be chill bruah.

>>25507054 >See, this makes the most sense; Worship god because he is the ultimate blood-hungry nightmare and you're better off sucking his dick than cursing his name. Schalom. Getting fucked up for millenia really broke your people, but then again, it's what you deserve.

>>25507060 Stop kvetching.

>>25507061 If god isn't some mixture of evil or indifferent, why bad thing happen? No, really, and don't say original sin, especially if you're an antisemite.

>>25507050 then why do christians ask for stuff when they pray? that's not worship, it's a transaction

>>25507078 I mean, catholics don't. Our Father, Hail Mary, and Glory Be are all just prayers of admiration. It really is about worshiping desert demons.

>>25507050 this doesn’t occur to me until you said it. when i think about what most people's prayer is about, its about thanking for things that happened , worrying about things that happened or hoping for something to change.

>>25507078 The main objective of prayer is to get closer to God, though you can ask stuff too

>>25507064 No, God will hear some form of my bitching until the end of time. I don’t care if the apocalypse happens and we are still in paradise. He will still hear my bitching. >We saved more <I said fuck them then, and I say fuck them now.

>>25507078 Why not free load? I don’t really ask for that much relatively speaking. But I’m always open arms to free shit. Why would I care that it’s God giving free shit over a person? If anything just shows at least God isn’t a Jew and gifts.

>>25507086 our father has requests, hail mary asks her to pray for you, glory be is two lines but yes, solely worship

>>25507072 >If god isn't some mixture of evil or indifferent, why bad thing happen? You don't know what "evil" and "good" is, you have no idea if what's happening is evil. YOu are absically a woman going by feelings. >No, really, and don't say original sin, especially if you're an antisemite. What. You Jews are weird. >>25507078 >then why do christians ask for stuff when they pray? that's not worship, it's a transaction Not really, God already knows what I will pray for before I do it. He knows what I need and want better than I do myself. I generally ask for stuff because I'm an imperfect being full of sin, fear and desperation, stumbling through this battlefield we call "life". And that's okay. And my prayers are pretty much always answered. >>25507086 Don't you Jews pray free form? How weird. >>25507099 >this doesn’t occur to me until you said it. Pagans are like that, so I said it.

>>25507135 Okay, the bread and trespasses, and not being led into temptation, I guess you're right, but its still sorta a veneration. Ya know, like "only you have this power, Lord!" *cock gargling noises*

Prayer is essentially a form of magic: one wishes for something to happen, but has neither the will nor the capacity to make it happen himself, and so offloads it onto a deity (which in 99% of cases is an egregoric entity formed by the collective beliefs and energies of a population) for it to happen.

>>25507050 >>25507061 >>25507064 >>25507140 >WE DON'T PRAY LIKE THAT IN GERMANY

>>25507140 So... a wishing well. Just be honest about it. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but don't criticise others about it

>>25507140 >You don't know what "evil" and "good" is, you have blah blah lol, and I'm the jew? gtfo the fuck out with that slimy shit. We are talking about a thing with concrete properties, your subversion is not needed.

The last time I prayed to God was something like this, “I hate this world and everything is shit, I would have been happier had you let me die instead of enduring more misery. Yeah it could be worse and I’m thankful. But I see no reason to help people outside friends. And you know I just hate people more with every passing day.” Most of my prayer is something of this nature. Knowing he has a supreme comprehension. And me still questioning him in ways. Wonders my view points on his views. Doesn’t he know I hate his creation?

>>25507166 He didn't even know where Adam was hiding in The Garden.

>>25506995 Excellent question. Not like you can change God's will.

>>25507171 Sure. It’s hard to explain my views. If I ever talked to him face to face in a clear enough mind set. I’d ask him what is this shit? Let people be damned. You know it was never in my heart to save others.

>>25506995 I will tell you. You will remain an atheist because your heart is dark and your mind is dull with blind eyes. We pray to talk to God. We PRAY to TALK to God. We don't just clasp our hands and say words into the air what would that do? That's a false idol God will NEVER answer a prayer. Prayer is putting scripture into your life to understand how God wants us to live. READ the Bible to get answers. Walk with God and search for the bibles wisdom or become lost and fall away. Life is hard chaotic and cruel well wouldn't you rather have god speaking into your life? No you'll continue with your imaginary friend saying oh boohoohoo You're an idiot.

>>25507086 Our Father is asking for food. That is demanding.

>>25507191 I’ll take free shit from God. Why not? Is he not one to lean on with one’s burdens to free load? lol

>>25507197 Read the thread, I admitted as much but with a caveat. Forgive me, its been a while since I escaped that fruity cult.

>>25507197 Fuck off

>>25507191 I walked with God and it clearly had nothing to do with scriptures or bibles, you worship jew memes.

>>25507206 Fuck you faggot I'll knock you out punk bitch no one needs you God isn't real and if he was he'd hate you Faggot worm

>>25507199 You'll die alone fuck you

>>25507209 Big dick energy.

>>25507212 Shut the fuck up

>>25507197 I said request because I don't know grammar for original. But it certainly could be demanding by the English version.

>>25507214 Damn, well I'm hard.

>>25507209 But him. But he is real and he votes Bob Dole. He is an illegal named Hey Zues and his voter fraud hasn’t been updated. :p

>>25507206 the new testament approves of this

>>25507218 Not him*

>>25507218 >he votes Bob Dole based

>>25507222 I’m just mad because I can kind of see the future and I already know I will get shit posted at least one more time. It’s like why God? Just end it already.

>>25507227 >It’s like why God? Best bet is he's probably not real. "Why?" is a hard thing to force on reality, but if you eliminate it, it makes more sense.

>>25507236 But I should have died. Or at least crashed. I was going so fast I could not make out my surroundings visually. I should have died there. The damage on the car wasn’t even that bad from it.

>>25507248 So should I, and the car was totaled. Sometimes people just survive bad accidents.

what is the problem with pope dying when you can just choose another

>>25507276 Pope draft. Its become too commercialized.

>>25507263 Sure. But traffic was too heavy. This wasn’t open road. It was full traffic. And going around 20-30 mph faster than traffic when the car lost control. It’s not like we just missed. We hit 6-15 tractor trailers during all of it. Bouncing at the perfect angle every time. Not including the fact the car went under at least one trailer. As it was the only way for the damage.

>>25507291 I was also on a busy expressway going 85mph and managed to avoid everyone. Wanna fuck or something?

>>25507296 How big is your cock?

>>25507307 Small, not big at all.

>>25507310 Can you put on a blonde wig and call your self Megan Mcain?

>>25507315 I guess, but its gonna look weird.

>>25507325 Can you look at least this good?

>>25507339 I'm a knockout compared to that, jesus christ.

>>25506995 >>25507006 If everything that happens is God's will, people praying is also God's will.

>>25507347 So if heathens heathening is god's will, why create people just to play a script that takes them to hell?

>>25507353 I think what is meant is reality is Gods will. And we suffer as a result. God didn’t tell the person to be evil. It’s a result of choice. Some choose to be evil. As some choose to be good. I want to do evil things. It’s fun.

>>25507375 So its god's will to create people that have a chance to be evil and then punish them?

>>25506995 The eye through which I see God is the same eye through which God sees me.

>>25507156 Not necessarily. One can pray for assistance in work or love. Having capacity or will and still not a guarantee of it happening.

>everything that happens is God's will that's in Islam not in Christianity

>everything that happens is God's will That's not so. There are three wills in the universe: the will of God, the will of spirits, and the will of men.

>>25507353 Parents create people now, not God.

>>25507353 >heathens heathening is god's will haha, from now on I'm telling evangelicals I'm doing god's will for that reason checkmate christcucks

>>25506995 To change god's will.

>>25507022 >And what makes you think you know better than God? The Old Testament? It's full of god's bad decisisons.