>>25496892 I swear by Pelevin’s explanation of discourse and glamour in Empire V. He tried to explain that the western world is still centuralized, but instead of stuffy orders being forced onto people, he explained that the west uses glamour. Ads and the media show us what is good and what is right, selling us ideas using money to produce the idea of sex. He explained that talking about shit is discourse or glamour without sex or money, and that in the west people are powerless without using energy to create glamour. It's clear to me that there have been times when imageboards have generated glamour, but it rarely happens and when it does half the time it's inane shit like countryballs, vtubers, or the MLP fandom.

>>25496949 >heyyy guys lets talk about SEX BUNDA BOOBS AWWAAOOO OOWWAAA UAAAA average post on imageboards what did you gain? you got your time stolen by dimwits

>>25496949 Ah, so that's where this is from.

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>>25496967 it sounds just like the book haha. Pelevin was /lit/core a couple hundred years ago. That guy is probably an oldfag or was at least there to get contemporary Russian shit shoved down his throat.

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Yes. There are however people who know how to talk to influence others, but they usually get paid a lot to do that.

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>>25496892 This is the smartest thread I ve ever read on KC.

Finally you realized. Trying to educate somebody you gain nothing and waste your time. >>25496949 I enjoyed how he put it into words that when normies talk - it's only to project having access to higher level of consumption than another person. You can even see it in every thread, be it about vidya, gfs, web browsers, industrial output, anything.

Whenever I reveal my thoughts and ideas that I currently practicing normies instantly want to undermine it at any cost >Hey I started doing this type of diet because I have realized it offers these benefits <but muhh nooo thats not true no everything is good in moderation >Hey I started going to Gym and running 30 min every week to improve my health <haha oh man what are you trying to achieve you want to become super man xd Xd its silly, just walk its enough >I read this cool book about improving memory <Haha dude that silly why do you need that Do not reveal anything to normies they will try to shit on your every idea and demoralize you Even on Imageboards, whatever you express the main objective of cattle is to demoralize you and shit on everything you have to share Its pure toxicity and waste of time you will never get good advice

>I quit beer and cigarettes no thanks I dont want <Haha dude common dont be so boring haha you are such mood killer >What do you think should I buy this cheaper car or this more expensive? <what dude they are all shit if you can't afford Bugatti

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i realized this before i was old enough to drink.

>>25498263 It's worse than that. If you told that to a psychologist they'd say that you have a disfunction. That mind reading to that extent is unhealthy and if they said anything to you it would be that >many people make the critical mental mistake of overestimating a partner or family member's ability to read their own thoughts There is some truth to their position, but it undermines the actual truth that normies are ruthless egotistical monsters.

>>25496892 I agree. That's why I don't have any friends

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>>25498263 <Wow Bernd you look more energetic than usual and your skin glows, did something change? >I've tried this new diet, I'm glad you noticed how it works. Wanna see my meal plan and cooking tips? I'll send you an email. <Wow Bernd you look nice *touches your shoulder to feel the abs* >Is it that noticeable, Becky? I started going to gym and run 30 minutes every day <O-oh, so you have more stamina too? Can I see your abs pretty please, Bernd? <Wow Bernd Paul I used to take you for slow and dim boy, but now you can perform mentat calculations in your head, what happened? >I took Bene Gesserit training under supervision of my mother, and finished Orange Catholic Bible recently, wanna hear me recite a verse while calculating prime numbers? >>25498274 >I don't smoke <Ok, wanna still hang out with us? We're going to dinner. >Do you know anything substantial about cars for me to consult your opinion <Man I ride a bus, but Bugati is breddy good I hear >Ok

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I agree. My friend repeats him self and talks about the same boring shit non stop. Once I’m out of here I plan on not chilling for months. I’ve literally told him we already talked enough for a life time and it just went over his head. He thinks I want to talk about his hobbies and interest when they mean nothing to me. And I despise his opinions on almost everything. And tell him this in a nice way. And it just goes over his head. I’m never coming back to his place again ideally. He really doesn’t understand how much conversation sucks with him. He doesn’t even remember what he talks about. And he is unbearable to live with. And thinks we would be good roommates. It wound be me calling him a fucking loser and telling him to clean up his shit. My one friend was suggesting I should move out with him. I wanted to tell him he should hang him self. It’s as pleasing to me.

>>25496949 Are you poccnr or what?

>>25506833 The worst his is car. It’s a complete beater and he brags about it to people. It blows my mind. And people laugh internally at his accomplishments. He is struggling to pull a girl because he is too scummy. Also goes over his head.

>>25506839 Why would I want to talk to a drunk and his tangits? Before I was forced to talk to him. I told him once a month at most is enough. Ideally ever 3-4 months. Always went over his head.

>>25506844 Give me the pie recipe

>>25506849 >I love my animals, can you feed them because I’m too lazy? >I have never bathed my cats because I smell like them anyways. So I don’t know the difference. >My feet smell on the same level as a rotting corpse to the point you move to a different area to avoid the smell. This also goes over my head. >I even admit to eating non stop cat hair, please eat the food I make to make you sick. >I want you to do my life responsibilities for me when you are barely in reality. This is how oblivious I am to any of your problems. >I can’t move out because I’m a good for nothing drink, please move out with me and do all the work. Also clean up after me and my animals. This makes sense to me >Look at my car not worth more than 2 thousand dollars. I actually owe you a stake dinner because I cooked not fix it in the time of 2 years. As it will never get fixed as you know engineering and I have no idea. But this goes over my head. >I can’t put down a beer if my life depended on it, but you must accept my views. >I can only come up with the excuse of I fucking suck which is why I don’t spend 20 hours of effort to radically change my life. >My cat is clearly dying, but can you feed him I’m to lazy? >I didn’t feed my cats, so you fed them. But I will gas light you and say I fed them. Making me seem like a bigger loser than you thought before. I can actually go non stop off the top of my head.

>>25506871 I’m going to talk about a girl for ever that broke up with me because I was going nowhere and could not hold her down. She doesn’t think about me ever. Maybe once a year. But I will bring her up hours a week. >I said I could fuck any girl you get with, but I’m going to tell you when you find the right one you will feel all different. >I will ask of you to do unreasonable task, when I’m too drunk and stupid to do basic ones. >Hard work is important, that’s why I live in a hell hole and never put a beer down. I do nothing with my savings and think the money I save matters >People at work all call me a drunk behind my back, but I wonder why they won’t go above and beyond for minimum wage when they have no respect for me.

>>25506894 >Im going to rage on you for not managing my life. You told me you hear dozens of voices in your head at the moment. But I’m a dumb drunk and didn’t even hear it. Now run my life. >we should move out together, because you want to take care of a smelly drunken loser. This is your dream come true. >Even women tell me I talk too much, but this goes over my head. >Im going to eat 2-3 hours of your life in everyday of useless talking. But will think anyone in their right mind will want to hear this trash. Which is why not a single person comes around. Because they love to hear it.

>>25506905 >I cause so much stress for you. I made you a hour late to work like usual. And this time you forgot your cigarettes. So you didn’t stay as long. I literally burden you with my pathetic life. Hopefully I’m out of here this week. His cat is clearly dying and I can’t handle his bitching and crying about it. He is too dumb to notice and I don’t want to be bothered explaining.

>>25506937 And yes it’s dying. It’s doing the same shit my cousins cat did before it died. Hiding and accruing weird.

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It's not, you can learn a lot from things that come out of your mouth than just thinking about it.

>>25496892 Fun fact: Ancient Yogis, one of the Buddha among others, discovered and described those facts thousands of years ago.

>>25506833 >>25506841 Gossiping is the worst kind of talk anybody could ever commit.

>>25506833 >>25506841 >>25506871 >>25506894 >>25506905 >>25506937 Is this person you? Because that was annoying as fuck

Yee but to be honest you are disabled

>>25507479 >everyball is same person you people are mentally disabled

You're wrong. You structure your thoughts and gain perspective by debating.

>>25507487 But you don´t have to. You can structure thoughts on your own and gain perspective by observing and reading - but without the costs of direct human interaction.

>>25507487 albanian monkeys can't go one day without favela drama and screaming about trivial shit

>>25507520 If you just want to philosophize bout the world. If you want to change anything you need social capital.

>>25507547 >If you want to change anything you need social capital. See, that´s the difference. Extraverts want to impress others, while introverts do it just because they can, as a sense in itself. That´s why they go much deeper and tend not to be impressed or distractzed by what others think about them or the interests they follow.

>>25507558 Maybe that guy needed help to kill a mammoth. Because he didn't want to starve to death. Groups don't necessarily form to "impress" others.

>>25507571 When your tribe is on the brink of starvation, you don´t need any social capital to motivate others following your idea of hunting mammoth .

u need answer these threest: are u maried? how is ur job? ur last vacation?

>>25507584 So there is a tribe

>>25507591 Of course. But you don´t need to chat about anything, that´s for women weaving baskets at the campfire.

>>25507602 The male children pick up the communication from these women

>>25507584 starving people are lazy

>>25507607 then they go off and live with men at age 7 and learn when to stfu

>>25507607 Nope, they don´t even really listen to the word´s content, just the beguiling melody of female voices. Same as adults. Those boys just think / daydream until they are old enough to search for sticks and stones or playfully learn to fight each other.

>>25507610 Those who nevertheless can motivate themselves to follow such a brilliant idea will survive and procreate successfully.

>>25507618 Even the videogame coder who coded everything on his own and sells his videogame. He relied on groups of people setting up all the frameworks and structures that made it possible.

>>25507624 *as well as the communication networks, distribution networks. Nothing impressive is really done on your own.

>>25507624 >to rely on existing knowledge, infrastructure, ressources >to rely on chatter Choose one.

>>25496892 I never talk to strangers.

>>25507639 >shifting goalposts from debating to chatter

>>25507716 By far the most "debate" actually is nothing but chatter.