>collectivization All workers get their share in the means of production >nationalization Rich nobleman gets the means of production from russian and arab Investors, workers get nothing

>>25495943 why? in both cases the state will run something that was previously run by an independent business. I would argue that workers get nothing from nationalization, if they are organized they can bargain with the state.

>>25495943 >collectivization Rich beurocrat gets the means of production from russian and arab Investors, workers get nothing >nationalization Rich nobleman gets the means of production from russian and arab Investors, workers get nothing I fixed it for you, because that is what has happened every single time anybody did collectivisation so far.

>>25495931 Here collectivization refers specifically to agriculture

>collectivization hehehe goy my friends will control this instead of the businessmen >nationalization hehehe goy my friends will control this instead of the businessmen >privatization hehehe goy my friends will control this instead of the bureaucrats >private enterprise hehehe goy I will control this instead of the state >kohlchanism hehehe goy my friends will control the board >berndism dam i don't control shit

>>25496077 Oy vey!