Delusional picture, Germany would be hard pressed to put two brigades in the field. >countries that have competing views against one another ironic

Jas 39 Gripen

I am ashamed to be an American. I wish I were a real German instead of just a German-American.

Europe dont give a fuck about usa >You guys are a fucking vassal to us. How do you not understand that? said vassal of israel

>>25494746 >UK >armoured divisions Laughing Out Loudeth. What is the armour in question here since we denuded our defenses only for said equipment to be obliterated on the Donbas -- stab vests?

USA >>>> MUSLIMROPE

>>25494746 It literally does not matter. We both have nukes and we are both ready to deploy them at any time, anywhere. That means that neither the EU or the USA will ever initiate any sort of "hot" war, the risk is too great.

UK isn't part of EU

Really don't understand still why Sweden would need NATO, we have everything we need already

>>25494880 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_nuclear_weapons_program

>Europe is so strong!! <meanwhile the american military is fully entrenched all around the european nations lol

If all that was true, OP's hysteria wouldn't be necessary.

>>25494746 You not only allow gayrope to exist, you have subsidized and enabled it, and told these faggots, that they're equals and it's not entitlement but their good rights. However, you murricans do underestimate the seriousness of the situation in ukraine. Right now there is nothing that's more important to europe than this war. You're retarded to think, that this thing can be stopped by some talks and retarded contrarianism. It's a situation where each and every word causes great shifts because every action affects hundreds of millions of people directly in such a manner, that it might cause a future for them in which their families are raped and tortured to death, or they burn drenched in gasoline until nothing but some crispy critters remain of them. It is a situation in which leaders and their families can get brutally murdered, possible with each of every inhabitant of the city they reside in. That are the stakes of the situation in which you are in. Thinking, that a situation like this can be handled by someone that acts like a geriatric business tycoon with anger issues whose mental decline is becoming apparent, is beyond retarded. I would expect some rather extreme reactions to your retardation to occur in the foreseeable future. You might cause WW3, you might cause millions of deaths and abuses that happen on a scale larger than what has happened during and after WW2, and your entire political movement is very likely to be destroyed by people in your own government who know how high the stakes are. Which are too many to get rid of them. A good part of your own representatives see you and your entire political movement as a threat to national and global security, and you will be targeted as such. It's sad, because this might discredit everyone who wants to get rid of shitskins and cut down the government to less dystopian levels for the next 100 years. You're pretty much like all these faggots that cozied up to Hitler before WW2. Lothrop Stoddard and such. All their ideas and positions got discredited just because they supported nazis.

Also, the russian lobby and the jewish lobby are one and the same. Israel is a russian colony.

a Gripen 39 fighter pilot could rearm his plane himself if he just jumped out the cockpit and did some work

>>25494900 piercing the bright blue skies of the Swedish summer, going straight up into the straosphere, into the clouds, with our only mission to kill a lot of Russians who was borned in the oblast of Moscow, ehehehehehe

>>25494873 >We both have nukes How many strategic nooks does frons have? Would they even be able to destroy moscow and St.Pidorsburg and kill all the inhabitants? These are protected targets, so 90+% of all missiles might get shot down, and it might get 10+ warheads in the megaton-range to do the damage that is needed, because the actual destructive potential of nukes is widely overestimated. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not at all flattened by the nuclear blast, but burned down by fires that were caused by it. And modern buildings would not ignite.

>>25494927 >Would they even be able to destroy moscow and St.Pidorsburg and kill all the inhabitants? Yes

>>25494931 plx gib details. As I said, they might have to fire hundreds of strategic warheads to get 20 or so through the air-defense, and create enough damage to actually destroy a noticable percentage of these populations.

>>25494873 UK doesn't. Read more about Trident, it's fucked up. Basically: >subs are American made >nukes are American >can never be used as first strike >in event of second strike, if PM dead (which would happen as first strike = London obliterated) sub commanders are ordered to take American orders It's disgusting. To call us a nuclear power is dishonest.

>>25494941 Air defense my asshole, S600, a nuke always gets through, if that is through the air or in a shipping container that is the option of the operator

>>25494959 You should really have maked your own subs like Sweden does

>>25494927 We have about 240 nukes that are ready to be deployed at anytime by our nuclear submarines. Our SNLE system is excellent and kept in very good shape. Even if (hypothetically, since it would never happen) the US attacked, we would EASILY be able to deplay 10 warheads to every single major city in the US. Russia would be a fucking cakewalk. >>25494941 you're massively exaggerating how easy it is to shoot down a nuke. the success rate is more like 10%, so about a dozen nukes will do the job no problem. hell, if we REALLY wanted to fuck up russia for some reason, assuming they're super advanced and have a 99% defense rate, we could theoretically bombard them with 200 warheads, half in Moscow and half in St. Petersburg, though realistically 20 would do the trick.

>>25494970 >240 nukes Weak >Our SNLE system SeNiLE system

>>25494746 >You guys are a fucking vassal to us.

>>25494990 you could eat them for breakfast, I know. but i'm talking about Russia and the USA, they don't have you as a supersoldier to protect them. we also have 50-60 more nukes in reserve that aren't deployed.

Euro-NATO is worthless without the US The whole of NATO is based on American C3. It's a requirement for Euro nations not to "duplicate", that is to have operational autonomy Euros are dumb if they want to declare US an enemy. There's no European military ready to replace US

>>25494960 Are you aware, that most scalp/stormshadow missiles are shot down nowadays, and these only have to penetrate russian airspace for a few kilometers. I dunno about ballistic missiles that frons may have, but cruise missiles have lost a lot of their effectiveness by now. And, as I said, you'd need tens of strategic nooks to destroy a large city, if these nooks burst in the air. If they explode on the ground, they cause far less destruction, so you wouldn't have to get one nook to poccnr, and also not ten, but rather hundred, and then would have to somehow spread them all around the city. Salted bombs that just create the maximum amount of radiation would be more effective, but I think, that everyone stopped developing these.

>>25495001 The Swedish RBS system will not defeat the French nukes but instead work together with it to defeat the Russian bastards, we are Friends France, thank you for your nukes aimed against Moscow

>>25494902 >It is a situation in which leaders and their families can get brutally murdered, possible with each of every inhabitant of the city they reside in. That are the stakes of the situation in which you are in. Which leaders are not deserving of such a fate again?

>>25495017 :DDDDDDDDDD

>>25495009 >stormshadow missiles are shot down nowadays Actual source that is not my smelly asshole about this statement? Kys before you post the link

>>25494970 >Russia would be a fucking cakewalk. Russia would probably be able to turn frons into a moon landscape though. They have like thousands of nooks at least. But I'm glad to hear, that Frons is now the protector of yurop. It's very nice of you

>>25494959 >London obliterated Would be making the world a much better place.

>>25495026 Yes, of course. But they would not be able to turn ALL of Europe into a moon landscape, and our nukes would be safe and ready to deploy regardless of if they destroy the mainland. So all major russian cities are gone too in that case. It's how nukes work, it's not a dick measuring contest, everyone loses no matter what.

>>25495042 In reality

>>25495049 Make sure to nuke Samara because that's where my Russian eGF who doesn't respond to my Telegram messages lives

>>25495020 >Which leaders are not deserving of such a fate again? That's what they all deserve, but the means to give them what they deserve will turn out to be rather extreme, and maybe not everybody is ready for that. I am though >>25495023 >Actual source that is not my smelly asshole about this statement? Kys before you post the link Watch Reisner's vids. He's talking about how the effectivenes of western weapons has been reduced during the war. I'm assuming, that people who want to discuss such topics have watched his stuff, because he's one of the main military experts who breaks down things to the public, and remains rather neutral instead of becoming a sportsball-propagandist.

>>25495072 >Watch Reisner's vids. Who's? >I'm assuming, that people who want to discuss such topics have watched his stuff You are assuming wrong >because he's one of the main military experts who breaks down things to the public Please you fucking nigger, nobody is making decisions about fucking... "Reisner videos" lmfao kys my asshole

>>25494746 >Why the fuck would a proxy force have a voice during negotiations? Their entire army was funded by us too. Without the backing of the US, Ukraine would've fallen into guerrilla warfare unironically within the first two weeks post invasion. Yeap, that 100 javelins saved the Ukraine for 3 years, now pay 500 bln xD

>>25495108 🙏

>>25495089 >Who's? pic related >You are assuming wrong Which indicates, that you have no clue what you're taling about >Please you fucking nigger, nobody is making decisions about fucking... "Reisner videos" lmfao kys my asshole I'd estimate you to be about IQ85. That's shitskin-tier.

>>25495119 his skull shape is not worth worrying about

>>25495125 Love sweden >>25495113 Love norway love from England

please, dear god, let a gigantic apocalyptic war commence, so that the world is cleansed of dumb people by a nuclear firestorm that burns even the heavens.

>>25495119 Reisner was talking about GPS guided ATACMS and Russia is jamming GPS. Storm Shadows dont need GPS. They target themselves optically.

>>25495149 dont worry, we are on track

>>25495148 You're with us

>>25495167 forever tonight I am exposing how the papists are cowards and liars you already knew this, of course

>>25495173 We do not need to know this in our war in our hearts, but I thank you dear anglo fellow for your struggle against it, think about the english rose and if we need to spend energy disregarding the papist in Rome or if we are just killing Russians instead, very simple path, just kill Russians

>>25495167 Worst anime and worst music. Normies are such shiteaters

>>25495182 if the russians attack we will be behind you 100% in ukraine we gave maybe 10% of our power and that was still more than anyone else in europe other than poland

>>25495152 SS/Scalps use a combination of GPS, ground radar, and a gyroscope. And Reisner said, that by now about 75% of them don't strike their target.

>>25495184 just kill Russians

>>25495187 Poland is very strong and he is our friend just like UK, I am very happy about this >>25495190 Please he do not know about conture targeting who is preloaded in the missile, kys my friend

>>25495193 If somebody gave you money to target a missile into the Russian land, let's say it's about 6 months when you get money, wouldn't you study and classify all the contures of the Russian landscape and feed it into the missile as your project of being paid was brought to a close? Heck you would probably even quantify the certain diameters of a FSB building so your missile could understand it... very funny how that happens

>>25495190 this is completely irrelevant since any nuclear attack would consist of at least 10 warheads, the US and Russia can very easily afford to perform such attacks, France could do so at a smaller scale without a problem either.

>>25495216 the fact france has nuclear weapons is the greatest thing in europe please increase your arsenal

>>25495219 it's incredible we have ANY nukes at all considering how cucked our politics are. I'm really glad that De Gaulle planned this out in advance since without him we'd be just like the rest of Europe. There's no way for us to get more nukes since our military budget is very low. But it's better than nothing. Know that if you are nuked by the USA we will fight back for your sake.

>>25495216 There's not enough space on SS/Scalp for ten warheads, so they'd have to have at least ten scalps hit a city that's deep inside enemy territory. I would say, that that's harder to achieve than what the ukrainians have done so far, so the his probability will be below the 25% that ukrainians achieve now. Let's say 10%. Could be 15%, could be 5%. Who knows. Let's just assume. Then you'd need to strike ten or so Hits, to really glass Moscow, and not just make everyone there angry at you for having damaged their windows. With that in mind, Frons may be able to destroy two or three russian cities, if all it's 250 nooks (someone else said that earlier) were strategic nooks that were designed to destroy cities, and not just tactical ones, that are basically better thermobaric bombs meant to destroy concentrations of troops.

>>25495232 The UK is cucked because our nuclear weapons have a failsafe that the USA controls france doesnt have this if the UK wanted to nuke the USA our missiles would all magically malfunction (american meddling) french nuclear weapons are genuinely french i hope you build more of them and I hope Germany makes its own Nukes too it is the ONLY way for European independence

>>25495235 Very fancy analysis but where is the variable about the hatred of the actual CV90 combat vehicle full of Swedish vikings who actually hate Russians with all their heart?

>>25495238 >>25494885

I made crappy half relevant AI music r8 It's a test on the idea of "countryball battle rap".

>>25495254 >french ignites the flame the lights the darkest hour very very very based my friend

>>25495272 the flame of freedom never accept death

>>25495295 ere youre a right old guvner you know that boy?

>>25495301 cheeky pint of beer you know i got it

>>25495307 it has to be done doesnt it

>>25495238 that's not true. the UK has an independent nuclear deterrent.

>>25495312 at the end of the week it's going to be done in a cheeky way innit

>>25495326 the heroin has gotten to your head

>>25495334 nigger was this you claiming the UK nuclear subs made by BAE with Rolls Royce reactors are american made? >>25494959 idiot.

>>25495338 i hope you are right i hope maybe ive got it all wrong i hope you are right this is a rare scenario where a scotsman is less pessimistic than me

>>25495338 Also that post wasnt me, i didnt make any claims about the construction of nuclear subs becoz im from harlow and the only thing i know how to construct is a spliff

>>25495349 things that a nuclear sub constructor says > im from harlow and the only thing i know how to construct is a spliff

>>25495366 well i can neiver confirmline nor deny

>when you do not have they mysterious complete power of the UK to count on in your side <I feel sorry for you, Russians

This math singularly considers the UK/Germany/France. Also, the EU hasn't been shifted to a wartime economy in how long? The USA is in a state of permanent wartime economy. I'm not saying the EU would obviously mog the fuck out of the US, but if the EU + Britain shifted to a Wartime economy and massively ramped up production it would seem weird to imagine the USA would just dogwalk Europe to its grave. Not to mention Americans, socially, would go fucking APESHIT at the idea of starting a war with Europe.

>>25495379 oh look Germany wants to say a thing too

>>25495379 I dont think we or the wops would fight for you

>>25495379 you aint the guvnor

>>25495383 Get in the UBoat, mohammed. >>25495384 Who is 'we' in this scenario the USA is fighting all of EVROPA, including you, kneel if you want I guess. >>25495385 No one said we'd be the guvnor, it'd probably be you + france.

>>25495379 >Not to mention Americans, socially, would go fucking APESHIT at the idea of starting a war with Europe. It's not like they didn't do it multiple times before.

>>25495390 haha sorry my bad, let me re-work that, contemporary western europe, now slavia

>>25495394 not slavia*

>>25495389 I think mutts are welcome, no oil here anyway except olive, which is healthy therefore a natural repellent

>>25495389 i vote france let them deal with it

>>25495394 even more so war vs UK? check France? check Spain? check Germany? check Denmark? well...

>>25495398 Theyre going to enter Spain and go WHY Y'ALL SPEAK MEXICAN AND NOT HAVE ANY DANG BURRITOS and you're going to beg for your life with tapas and a rice dish stained yellow with sausages and prawns and GIs are just going to start fucking killing you en-masse.

this is what europe used to be about til these fucking mugs got involved who invited them anyways i fuckin didnt cunts >i feel like only this scottish cunt knows where im coming from but hes only gone and sodded off the little ginger wanker. his mum selects his outfits and his dog's got ginger pubes and his girlfriend has a face like a slapped arse the wee junkie

>>25495411 Eh, we had romans here, they built a road and fucked off

Based Germany

>>25495417 >it used to be about the fucking BANTER now all of our crypto-colonies and idiot children are trying to put us into retirement homes and sell our houses >>25495418 It would take 1, one, [1] bottle of Estrella for any civilised nation to want to erase your entire fucking country. I would rather go to the UK and drink, Allah Forgive Me, fucking Carling than let a single drop of Estrella pass my fucking lips.

>>25495425 banter makes the world go round

You all fancy Europeans can argue about who has the best beers into eternity, but now it's time for action and to kill A LOT OF RUSSIANS and you European bastard, from the Uk into Germany better give the power over to the real Russian Killer the Swede if you want to be safe and secure and with lots of killed Russians on your conscience, it's the best when you think about a Russian who you have killed, happy joy thoughts about Russian who you have killed if you decide on the Swedish leader of Europe for the next few years, just saying bro let it happen lmao

>>25495435 You're not Finland and you haven't had teeth since the middle ages. You used to be great but didn't understand things like farming so your entire Kingdom depended on raiding the greater baltic sea for supplies until winter hit while everyone else was figuring out what salting pork did. Also, yeah the UK, Germany, and France might be infected with Muslims but we keep them in check enough that they dont throw actual fucking GRENADES around their council estates. Fuck me, mate.

>>25495450 >You're not Finland and you haven't had teeth since the middle ages. banter

>>25495450 Remember we bring you Simo Häyhä the white death, Finnish sniper too if you vote for us

this sort of crack is why i love europe americans would have taken potshots at their own elected representatives by now

>>25495458 You'll do nothing. S Tier Activatable Europeans: Poles, former oppressed USSR states with bydlo culture. A Tier Activatable Europeans: Brits, French, Finns, Romanians, Baltics B Tier Activatable Europeans: Germans, Austrians, Czecks, Irish, Spaniards, Italians, Turks(Lol) C Tier Activatable Europeans: Nords, Swedes, Icelanders, Greeks

>>25495477 I JUST WANT TO GO TO SWINDON

>>25495473 Talking like he's the big man in Europe

>>25495481 I literally put Germany in B tier. Germans are buck-broken, it would take a profound shift in national psychology to return Germans to a martial tradition.

>>25495489 >>25495481

>>25495473 Swedes are AA+* among the best pros at submarines for instance

>EU Army >UK what

>>25495489 Maybe this can help

>>25495501 TURN IT OFF IAN

>>25495496 Absolute European warrior

>>25495500 yeah the british SAS are some of the best special forces in the world, and theres like 10 of them

>>25495501 Look at ops flag

>>25495501 There is zero disagreement in parliament about the UK siding eith Europe in any kind of global moral conflict started by the USA or Russia and the only people who disagree are retarded elected groypers who unironically watch shit like Sargon of Akkad. In an argument between Europe, the USA, and Russia over a landgrab in Ukraine the UK would basically need to side with Europe to maintain any meaningful dignity in the conversatio tbh, and it has rightly chosen to do so. Don't get me wrong, Ukraine finna lose all their shit, lmao, but kneeling to Russia like America is doing is fucking insane.

Yes, everyone now can see Hitler was right.

no need for gigantic armies when you have nukes

jawohl

>China 4d chessing Russia and the USA by loudly proclaiming they wish to strengthen ties with Europe as much as possible What was meant by this

>>25495550 No one knows. Maybe they are just a bit salty that Russia didn't sell them some worthless piece of land at the north polar sea.

Both entities are worthless because both armies are afraid of real fighting. Losses in Afghanistan for 20 years are 4k dead and 25k wounded. And this shit is considered a great loss. In real war it is a daily loss. Both entities are afraid of any shithole that can assembly an army that can fight for a couple of weeks. The USA basically capitulated in the Russia-Ukrainian war without any losses at all.

>>25495379 > Not to mention Americans, socially, would go fucking APESHIT at the idea of starting a war with Europe. They invaded Europe two times in last century. Both time successfully btw

>>25495583 Both times, they were allied with over half of Europe.

>>25495583 How would a Ukrainan want us in Europe to behave right now?

oh my gosh some random drunk guy started on me on my adventure to the shops very non-bosh

i have to deal with absolute lunatics in Harlow they want to kill me i say

>>25495689 Shut the fuck up you're drunk this thread is about killing Russians

>americans suddenly turned into pidorashkas I can't stop laughing, I really can't. It's the sad kind of laughter but this is probably the funniest thing I've seen in my life.

>>25495692 i nearly had my head kicked in by a drunk chav tonight i think that makes me more qualified to talk about russians than you

>>25495692 when was the last time anyone threatened to beat you up mate? for me it was 20 mins ago fukin ell

>>25495718 How dare you I have dedicated my entire professional life as an Über driver into killing Russians

>>25495728 I hate this fucking shithole and everyone in it i want to move to australia or the USA and leave this dire fucking bunghole behind forever

>>25495733 Yea Argentina seems nice

>>25495736 I'd go to Chile personally

>>25495737 Meet up with Gustav that'd be lit

>>25495739 I think we'd get on like a house on fire

anywoddle im glad ive got Jesus on my side im a Protestant, innit

>>25495740 He'd set me up rent-free on his family farm

this fucking absolute bog hole of a country cant get me down ive got the LORD jesus on my side in my corner ive got Jesus and the HOLY GHOST towelling me down whilst i BATTLE >PIKEY >PAPIST >GYPSY >PAKI >ROMANI SCUM In my little realm of harlow, essex

im probably the only poster on this website who has regular battles with idiots i hate them all if this was america i would carry a Glock at all times blast these dickeads away

>>25495752 incredible based

praise the LORD christ and god bless my soul

>>25495758 You swedish are the closest thing to my race that I recognise the dutch and germans are alright but you Swedish are the best God bless mate I mean it when I say I will fight for Sweden when the time comes In Jesus name

>>25495760 bloody hell mate we'll die but we'll take at least 2 Russians each with us!

I mean I get it people are fucked in the head from the MK Ultra mass psyop programming since 1945 I get it, they want to fight but dont fucking fight me for fucks sake FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY im not your enemy but if you think im not going to stand up for myself youre having a fucking laugh im english. cockney. celtic. i will fight and die for my pride. but i am peaceful. Jesus saves i doubt most of you have ever had a real fight and frankly i am glad, fighting isnt fun. its not cool. you arent clever for fighting. AND IF YOU THINK IM GOING TO WAR FOR SOME OTHER NATION YOU ARE JOKING. I FIGHT FOR ENGLAND ALONE

>>25495784 except if Sweden gets invaded i will volunteer

>>25495769 more than that i will personally bring back to my mum at least 12 russian right ears if the russians want a go ill fucking have the lot of them

>>25495804 blood thirsty i like it

i fucking hate everyone in this dirty fucking shithole and i want to move to america get me to america NOWNOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW

>>25495814 i dont feel pain

allo m8 alright? yh im alright

>>25495167 cringe here, let me show you how it's done

>>25495827 i'm aight keep alright mate

>>25495838 Poland is alright

>Thread about Europe and USA >Ctrl+F Russia >40 mentions Rent-free